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re: 17 Alabama Losses (2008-2020)

Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:21 am to
Posted by coachcrisp
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:21 am to
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But does anyone remember the 2000 LSU loss to UAB and the 2007 Alabama loss to ULM, Saban is beatable. Hugh Freeze figured him out and then Saban had him fired.



Now this is what a coonass calls a fact!
Posted by 19
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:22 am to
Why did you start in 2008, when Sabah started in 2007?

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Louisiana Monroe vs. Alabama - November 17, 2007


Posted by BigBro
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:51 am to
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Why did you start in 2008, when Sabah started in 2007?

Because I didn’t know how to handle the vacated wins.. so I just left it alone and started the next year.
Posted by JerryRTiger
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:32 pm to
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Alabama hasn't lost to an unranked opponent in 13 years.


Is this shite real? These are the kind of stats I never seem to dig hard enough for but are amazing standout statistics. Thanks for putting that out there for the ones who don't keep up like they should, including me.
Posted by JerryRTiger
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:34 pm to
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Because I didn’t know how to handle the vacated wins.. so I just left it alone and started the next year.


And that is something we are all going to remember about you going forward, us Bama fans. You didn't intentionally try to troll and gave Bama and Saban a fair shake.

There isn't really a whole lot to do with it anyway. It's either 2 wins that the NCAA allows by their guidelines or it's 7 wins.

Either way, I think it's better too that you just skipped to '08 to simplify things.

This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 5:38 pm
Posted by remaster916
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:41 pm to
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Hugh Freeze figured him out and then Saban had him fired.


Turnovers are killer. Bama had 8 turnovers compared to 1 for Ole Miss in those two losses to Ole Miss in 14 and 15. Bama had 5 turnovers compared to none for Ole Miss in the 15 game.

Turnovers are the great equalizer.
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 6:01 pm to
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Bottom line: You have to really fricking good to beat Alabama, and then hope that it is your lucky day. I knew Saban was great, but this is ridiculous.



Texas fans prior to the SEC
“How many times have you won a national championship?”

Teas fans after joint SEC
“Bama is really good, no one ever beats them, even good teams”

LMAO
Posted by BigBro
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 6:43 pm to
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Texas fans prior to the SEC
“How many times have you won a national championship?”

Teas fans after joint SEC
“Bama is really good, no one ever beats them, even good teams”

Texas doesn’t have that mindset against Oklahoma..

Texas didn’t have that mindset against Nebraska in the Big 12 when Nebraska had just won 3 national championships.

Why would we have that mindset against Alabama?

That mentality is for loser programs who never win anything..

If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Alabama is the best, so I say lets play them every year. If we get our arse kicked, that will just help us know that we have to get better for the next time.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 6:55 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 6:46 pm to
They've only lost 12 games in the past 10 seasons which is insane because that's fewer games than FSU lost in the 90s while playing tougher competition as well.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 6:49 pm to
This is true.
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 6:50 pm to
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the only head-scratcher based on talent/final ranking was 2010 South Carolina.

I said this in another thread today, but I'll say it again.

That 2010 USC team was a very talented team. Two of their losses were to Cam Newton.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 6:56 pm to
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They've only lost 12 games in the past 10 seasons which is insane because that's fewer games than FSU lost in the 90s while playing tougher competition as well.

Agreed. They are the King of the Hill. That’s why I want to play them.
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:03 pm to
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17 Alabama Losses (2008-2020) by BigBro
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Texas fans prior to the SEC
“How many times have you won a national championship?”

Teas fans after joint SEC
“Bama is really good, no one ever beats them, even good teams”

Texas doesn’t have that mindset against Oklahoma..

Texas didn’t have that mindset against Nebraska in the Big 12 when Nebraska had just won 3 national championships.

Why would we have that mindset against Alabama?

That mentality is for loser programs who never win anything..

If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Alabama is the best, so I say lets play them every year. If we get our arse kicked, that will just help us know that we have to get better for the next time.



Moving goalposts. The argument when you make this statement is that your better than A&M not that you’re necessarily the best team ever.

When you aren’t in the SEC you use the “well haven’t beat Bama so you aren’t that good” but now when you’re in the SEC the argument is “We want to beat Bama they are really good.”

You use a national championship as the “criteria” for a “team that is better than you” unless you’re in the conference with that team and obviously can’t beat them yet, then all of a sudden it’s like magic. The rules change. SEC isn’t overrated and losing to Bama is just fine.

My point is when you have to play Bama suddenly “losing to the best” is okay. Until then we heard constantly how the SEC was overrated. And A&M wasn’t better than Texas until they “beat Bama”.

It’s just funny how you move the goalposts to suit you.

And kudos on y’all’s natty. But that’s not the point of my post and you know it. Nice deflection though.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:13 pm to
Is every Texas school going to suck Bama's dick regularly?
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:24 pm to
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17 Alabama Losses (2008-2020) by 1BIGTigerFan
Is every Texas school going to suck Bama's dick regularly?


No. But we do respect opponents that are truly better than us. Well A&M does. And Texas does too, unless that team is A&M.
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:27 pm to
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No. But we do respect opponents that are truly better than us. Well A&M does. And Texas does too, unless that team is A&M.


A&M has never had any kind of dominance that even remotely resembles Alabama...and definitely not against us.
Posted by JerryRTiger
Member since Jun 2021
389 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:30 pm to
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A&M has never had any kind of dominance that even remotely resembles Alabama...and definitely not against us.


But Texas loved playing A&M and A&M loved playing Texas. And, this always hurts, Alabama also has no dominance of any type over Texas.

Still, it's always fun when Alabama and Texas play and that is what being a fan is all about. Welcome to the board and to the conference.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 8:31 pm
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
5575 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:36 pm to
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But Texas loved playing A&M and A&M loved playing Texas. And, this always hurts, Alabama also has no dominance of any type over Texas.

Still, it's always fun when Alabama and Texas play and that is what being a fan is all about. Welcome to the board and to the conference.




Exactly. When comparing themselves to Bama one set of rules. When comparing themselves to other teams that have played Bama in conference (even though they haven’t) another set of rules.

They’ve never dominated Bama but expect A&M to. You can dodge my point, but y’all were SEC is overrated. Now y’all gonna chant SEC when you beat Big12 teams?
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19723 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:55 pm to
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My point is when you have to play Bama suddenly “losing to the best” is okay. Until then we heard constantly how the SEC was overrated. And A&M wasn’t better than Texas until they “beat Bama”.

It’s just funny how you move the goalposts to suit you.

And kudos on y’all’s natty. But that’s not the point of my post and you know it. Nice deflection though.


What the frick are you talking about? I don’t even follow what you are saying. You are comparing apples and oranges from what I can tell.

I don’t completely buy that A&M is as good as you think that they are.. and I don’t completely buy that A&M was deserving of a Top 4 finish last year. The problem is this..

When you lose to great teams like Bama in 2020, or that hellacious schedule in 2019.. you can say.. yeah but those guys were all top 5 or whatever. I have studied it both ways and it is tricky. A&M very well might be better than I think that they are..

The problem is.. you don’t ever win anything. It isn’t just a National Championship that i’m taking about.. it could be a division title.. or an SEC title or a NC.

But that has been the problem since 1998 in both the Big 12 and now the SEC.. You guys don’t ever win anything.. but there is a good reason.

In the Big 12 since 1998, you had Texas hire Mack Brown and Oklahoma hire Bob Stoops. Both of those teams were in your division and each of those teams were very hard to beat, not to mention you had to beat both to win the division. One of those two teams won the Big 12 South every year from 1999 until you left.

In the SEC, it is the same problem, just with a different set of teams. I understand that makes it incredibly hard to win anything with those kind of teams always in your division..

But surely you understand my side of the argument too? You have to conquer the beast next to you, even if that is also the dragon.

Ultimately you are in a division with Alabama. So yeah, you either figure out how to beat them, or you won’t ever win a division, or a conference, or a NC.

Auburn & LSU figured it out. They have 5 division titles between them since 2009 when this run started by Alabama.

Until A&M figures it out.. how should we judge A&M If it isn’t by championships of some kind?
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:06 pm to
You're asking Texas to respect you, yet you guys never respected LSU with all those beat downs in a row?
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