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re: 12 Text Messages that exposed Pruitt
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:18 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:18 pm to DawgsLife
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Only because they wanted to get rid of Pruitt...so, yes. I will go on.
They never balked at writing a check to get rid of a coach before so that doesn’t add up.
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Show/Cause
Yes Pruitt and everyone one associated with him got a show cause to hire tag. They were stupid and sloppy and alienated the boosters, fans, and too many folks at the university to warrant support.
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UT apparently isn't smart enough to use layers. Way too much work. It's much easier to use McDonald's bags.
Pruitt isn’t Tennessee. The university did the same things every program does/did. And the university sure as hell was well out in front of the NIL stuff. Pruitt on the other hand lived down to his reputation and proved to be incompetent and a rare scale.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:19 pm to Smokeyone
quote:So, did it work?
The investigation was to keep the program from real NCAA issues.
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unreal the willing suspense of disbelief y’all can have.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:20 pm to DawgsLife
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I thought you said Pruitt was hired by an interim? Did i misunderstand? If so, apologies. I actually don't have a problem with you, Prof. It's several other of your UT brethren who continuously troll Georgia. It's payback time for them.
Fulmer was an interim when he made the hire.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:41 pm to djsdawg
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This is an assumption, not a fact.
Darnell Washington went to the highest bidder. If a local Knoxville journalist knows who got paid, you can bet your arse the NCAA knows.
Darnell Washington took money
Brian Niedermeyer gave Darnell Washington cash in his high school parking lot
Niedermeyer broke NCAA rules in January 2019 on a visit to Desert Pines High School in Washington's junior year. The visit constituted impermissible contact when Niedermeyer and Washington "shot baskets together and had a recruiting conversation" after Washington's basketball practice.
The pair walked to the parking lot afterward and Niedermeyer gave Washington $750, the NCAA found and Niedermeyer confirmed in the February 2023 negotiations that resulted in the show-cause.
Is this proof enough where Neids admitted to paying Washington. More players names will come up now the punishment has been handed down. I expect some players from Oklahoma, Bama, and UGA to have had players that broke the rules and took money.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:09 pm to WG_Dawg
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Dont you think if there was proof we'd be in the same trouble UT is?
There is nothing in that exchange that all other programs wouldn’t do, we just self snitched for some reason.
Contacting recruits during a COVID break and payouts of $60K total over the entirety. It’s not exactly spicy
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:43 pm to Prof
Ok. I said Pruitt was handpicked by Fulmer, didn't I? I mean it doesn't matter if he was an interim or not. Fulmer hand picked him. And, then Fulmer became the AD, did he not? It seems like an odd way of trying not to admit that Pruitt was picked by Fulmer.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:45 pm to Mizzoufan26
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There is nothing in that exchange that all other programs wouldn’t do, we just self snitched for some reason.
I mean...seems like you would need some kind of proof to say that definitively. And, fact is, Tennessee wanted Pruitt gone so badly they decided to blow the whistle on themselves. But for UT fans to act like they are pure because they started the investigation is laughable.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:48 pm to WG_Dawg
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where?
I just posted the link about Darnell Washington being involved in the UT stuff.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:49 pm to Hot_in_the_box
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If a local Knoxville journalist knows who got paid, you can bet your arse the NCAA knows.
Darnell Washington took money
And yet the NCAA went after Tennessee. I wonder why?
Seems as if there was plenty of evidence to hit Tennessee, and nothing to hit Georgia.
Here we go again. Tennessee gets busted and UT fans trying to deflect.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:54 pm to Hot_in_the_box
So, the big condemning thing you have is Tennessee paid a crap ton of players and all of them decided to go somewhere else....and that is supposed to look bad for the schools they went to?
The journalist never insinuates that any other school did anything wrong, and in fact, quite pointedly points his finger directly at Tennessee.
Nice "Gotcha!" you got there.
The journalist never insinuates that any other school did anything wrong, and in fact, quite pointedly points his finger directly at Tennessee.
Nice "Gotcha!" you got there.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:55 pm to DawgsLife
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I mean...seems like you would need some kind of proof to say that definitively. And, fact is, Tennessee wanted Pruitt gone so badly they decided to blow the whistle on themselves. But for UT fans to act like they are pure because they started the investigation is laughable.
Ok, well we can take solace in that no one died I guess
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:58 pm to Smokeyone
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They were stupid and sloppy and alienated the boosters, fans, and too many folks at the university to warrant support.
Gee. I wonder where they got the money from? I wonder.
Bet those same boosters are still in Knoxville doing the same thing. Probably more carefully now, though.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 9:00 pm to DawgsLife
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Probably more carefully now, though.
They just bought a QB last year..
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:40 pm to Dawgfanman
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They just bought a QB last year..
Wrong! These are assumptions, not facts. Sprye Sports is the #1 NIL Collective in the country.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:00 pm to Hot_in_the_box
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If a local Knoxville journalist knows
This is an assumption, not a fact. After the Alan Judd debacle, they lost the benefit of doubt.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:05 pm to DawgsLife
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Ok. I said Pruitt was handpicked by Fulmer, didn't I? I mean it doesn't matter if he was an interim or not. Fulmer hand picked him. And, then Fulmer became the AD, did he not? It seems like an odd way of trying not to admit that Pruitt was picked by Fulmer.
The context of that search matters a great deal though. The search literally blew up when AD Currie at the behest of Jimmy Haslam attempted to hire Schiano only to be side swiped by the fact that the WaPo had run an article about recently UNSEALED court documents in the Sandusky case where the state's star witness said Schiano knew about the abuse. That sealed testimony was never vetted because Schiano was hired by OSU prior to it being revealed and the WaPo article and unsealed documents happened not long before Schiano's name got out.
The outrage from that and the Haslam faction strong arming in yet another mediocre hire blew back in all their faces. Fans would've tolerated a mediocre hire but not a mediocre hire with that kind of stain. AD Currie realized that blindly following Haslam was about to cost him his job via the unanticipated blowback.
AD Currie then attempted to over correct and went completely off the radar scrambling for a coup de grace hire that would save his arse but he also went completely out of touch with the Admin and BoT who were left to face the firing squad in his absence. THAT resulted in AD Currie's firing and a completely fractured power structure.
In order to staunch the bleeding and because no one could agree on a new AD, Fulmer was brought in as an interim. The list of candidates he had to work with at that point was down to the Pruitts of the world. So to say that Pruitt was handpicked by Fulmer is incredibly misleading. (The entire list was made up of Pruitts.)
The list had been culled by the radioactive hot zone that had enveloped the coaching search by the time Phil was even near.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 7/15/23 at 7:56 am to Prof
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The context of that search matters a great deal though. The search literally blew up when AD Currie at the behest of Jimmy Haslam attempted to hire Schiano only to be side swiped by the fact that the WaPo had run an article about recently UNSEALED court documents in the Sandusky case where the state's star witness said Schiano knew about the abuse. That sealed testimony was never vetted because Schiano was hired by OSU prior to it being revealed and the WaPo article and unsealed documents happened not long before Schiano's name got out.
Yes. I remember all of that. You have to wonder if Schiano would have been a better choice in the long run. Tennessee should never have allowed popular opinion sway them. I mean, could Schiano have given UT a bigger black eye than Pruitt?
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(The entire list was made up of Pruitts.)
I mean...not really. You are, at best, speculating. We don't know if the other candidates would have gone down the same cheating road as Pruitt. The other candidates may or may not have done better on the field. But you are definitely speculating by insinuating Pruitt was all that was left....or the best of what was left. And of all the candidates, Pruitt was indeed picked by Fulmer.
While not a great coach by any stretch Kevin Steele probably would not have given UT the black eye Pruitt did.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 7:58 am to Mizzoufan26
quote:What exactly did Georgia do that caused that? All of Tennessee's wounds were self inflicted. Again, a Tennessee fan wants to deflect. Gee. Shocker.
Ok, well we can take solace in that no one died I guess
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:16 am to WG_Dawg
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is there any evidence that would make him be ineligible at his current program?
The only reason this stuff was illegal was because it was the dead period. All of the bills for rooms and food and stuff is legal if it’s a legal visit
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:03 am to Hot_in_the_box
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Wrong! These are assumptions, not facts. Sprye Sports is the #1 NIL Collective in the country.
Because Tennessee has absolutely no history of paying players, right?
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