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Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:02 pm to TotalRebel
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:02 pm to TotalRebel
for the 4th time... where the frick have you been 
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:07 am to UMRealist
It takes about 18 months to fully recover from knee surgery or reconstructive surgery of any type.
Some may come back sooner but those who do will not be at full speed.(D.T. Shackleford comes to mind) He finally started balling during the Arkansas game. Right about 18 months after he last injured his knee in spring training.
Bo is only 12 months removed from his reconstructive surgery. He will be fully recovered by July and will be able to spend the entire off season getting bigger and stronger.
The ability to shorten his release, make deep throws and the lack of hesitation with the staff's concerns for re injuring his shoulder should allow Bo to have an even more successful season.
It won't hurt at all if the o-line improves and can provide more time to make throws.
Some may come back sooner but those who do will not be at full speed.(D.T. Shackleford comes to mind) He finally started balling during the Arkansas game. Right about 18 months after he last injured his knee in spring training.
Bo is only 12 months removed from his reconstructive surgery. He will be fully recovered by July and will be able to spend the entire off season getting bigger and stronger.
The ability to shorten his release, make deep throws and the lack of hesitation with the staff's concerns for re injuring his shoulder should allow Bo to have an even more successful season.
It won't hurt at all if the o-line improves and can provide more time to make throws.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 7:42 am to OBReb6
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I hate your opinions
Well, luckily, that's all they are. Opinions.
I know experience is irreplaceable, but Kincade has a much higher ceiling and the offense will run much better with him.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 7:45 am to Emanonion
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Thoughts on Bowl Gamequote:Bo is also terribly innaccurate on short to intermediate routes. He has killed a TON of screen passes this year by making it hard for our backs/receivers to catch and run. Also has a hard time throwing a spiral. I know he brings the experience and that is unteachable and holds a lot of value, but I feel like he's the beneficiary of our offense and not the other way around. G 13 Att 437 Comp 283 Pct. 64.8 Yards 3346 Yards/Att 7.7 TD 18 Int 10 Rating 138.09 Att/G 33.6 Yards/G 257.4 Yeah I guess he was awful. Just think what his stats would have looked like with an OL that could let him not run for his life half the time. ETA: Oh and btw there has only been 1 QB that has ever played at Ole Miss, besides Bo, to have that good of passing stats. I will let you figure out who.
I'm not talking about completion percentage for those of you who are throwing that stat at me.
I'm talking about short passes that allow the receiver to run after the catch. On a lot of the bubble screens/RB screens, Bo throws the ball behind the receiver causing them to take the time to turn up field. He does this a lot. If the ball is placed where it should be, we'd get a lot more yards.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:00 am to inelishaitrust
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shorten his release
I hope so.. Treadwell isn't going to have an NFL career if this doesn't happen.. Bo takes so long to get those bubble screens in his hands that it leaves his knees and head pretty vulnerable.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:02 am to reggierayreb
Kincade has a quicker release than Bo but to be fair so does sorantable.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:14 am to SouthMSReb
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I'm not talking about completion percentage for those of you who are throwing that stat at me.
I'm talking about short passes that allow the receiver to run after the catch. On a lot of the bubble screens/RB screens, Bo throws the ball behind the receiver causing them to take the time to turn up field. He does this a lot. If the ball is placed where it should be, we'd get a lot more yards.
Basically this is just your opinion though unless there is some stat to quantify this. Who is to say this wouldn't improve if Bo had more time to throw the ball with a better OL or more confidence to throw it with better OL play.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:23 am to SouthMSReb
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Bo throws the ball behind the receiver causing them to take the time to turn up field. He does this a lot. If the ball is placed where it should be, we'd get a lot more yards.
Throwing it slightly behind a receiver makes it harder for a defensive back to get to the ball. I realize that's a generalization, but it seems appropriate considering that your point is no less of a generalization. There were times that he didn't step into throws, so he threw off of his back foot and his passes ended up a little high (his first interception during the Egg Bowl is one example).
It's important to remember that he wasn't able to throw for months after his surgery. That's huge for a QB. No one should have expected his shoulder to be 100%. He had to muscle up on his throws, so his motion was slower. His release point also seemed lower this year. Those things will improve as his shoulder progresses. They aren't something that should be considered his "fault." It didn't help that he had to run for his life from pressure that often came up the middle. That's tough for any QB to avoid.
I think he made better decisions this year. I also think he's tough and competitive. The season would have been a lot different without him.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:41 am to dtmb
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Throwing it slightly behind a receiver makes it harder for a defensive back to get to the ball. I realize that's a generalization, but it seems appropriate considering that your point is no less of a generalization. There were times that he didn't step into throws, so he threw off of his back foot and his passes ended up a little high (his first interception during the Egg Bowl is one example). It's important to remember that he wasn't able to throw for months after his surgery. That's huge for a QB. No one should have expected his shoulder to be 100%. He had to muscle up on his throws, so his motion was slower. His release point also seemed lower this year. Those things will improve as his shoulder progresses. They aren't something that should be considered his "fault." It didn't help that he had to run for his life from pressure that often came up the middle. That's tough for any QB to avoid. I think he made better decisions this year. I also think he's tough and competitive. The season would have been a lot different without him.
I respect your points. I definitely think he's tough and competitive, there's no questioning that. He also improved his decision making and won us some good games.
I'm of the opinion that this offense will be more efficient with Kincade at the helm.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:47 am to SouthMSReb
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I'm of the opinion that this offense will be more efficient with Kincade at the helm.
I definitely hope so for the future, I just think there's no way he's mentally ready to compete at a high level this season.
The best thing we can do IMO is get him meaningful snaps this season, similar to Brunetti's role but maybe not as much since that killed drives at times. And hey, if he starts to consistently look better than I'm sure he'll earn the spot, I just don't see how some of y'all can want him to start right now when you know so little of his capabilities.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 11:26 am to SouthMSReb
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I'm of the opinion that this offense will be more efficient with Kincade at the helm.
This is fricking ridiculous.
Over two seasons, Bo Wallace has 6,000+ yards of offense and close to fifty touchdowns. And you want to start a guy who has NEVER TAKEN A SNAP OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL over him?
Just think about what you're saying for a minute, and ask yourself if you really believe this stuff.
On the one hand, you've got a quarterback who, despite his flaws and injuries, has a pretty impressive body of work over the past two seasons, and on the other hand you've got a guy who literally graduated from high school less than a year ago.
I love Switchblade. I really do. I think he could be another great Ole Miss quarterback. What you seem to fail to recognize, however, is that we already have a pretty good quarterback right now.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 11:28 am
Posted on 1/2/14 at 11:29 am to OBReb6
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The best thing we can do IMO is get him meaningful snaps this season, similar to Brunetti's role but maybe not as much since that killed drives at times.
This right here. Let him get some experience next year, but there really is no reason (barring injury or major regression) to have him start over Wallace. Zero reasons.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 11:46 am to JasonMason
If he's better than Wallace it will become obvious and the coaches will make the right move, that's the bottom line. People need to quit acting like the know the situation better than the coaches and let it play out.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 11:55 am to OBReb6
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People need to quit acting like the know the situation better than the coaches and let it play out.
fricking this.....
Except when we put Korvic Neat back to return punts..... I think we all knew better than the coaches on that one
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:03 pm to WhistlinDixie15
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Except when we put Korvic Neat back to return punts..... I think we all knew better than the coaches on that one
Convinced it was just a troll job.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:07 pm to DCRebel
DC I couldn't agree with you more. My exact feelings in the matter.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:13 pm to JasonMason
Neat must have done really well in practice and would freak out in games
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:22 pm to OBReb6
I remember when we recruited him people said he was the next Dex.
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:27 pm to DMagic
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Kincade has a quicker release than Bo but to be fair so does sorantable.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:00 pm to DCRebel
If Devante is the better QB in spring pracice, he needs to play.
I'm not going to sit here and act like that will be a done deal, but I'm sticking to my opinion and that is, this offense is designed for a player like Kincade, not Bo.
I'm not going to sit here and act like that will be a done deal, but I'm sticking to my opinion and that is, this offense is designed for a player like Kincade, not Bo.
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