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Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:30 pm to
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:30 pm to
I thought the rule in football is - one play will burn a season?

So that would apply to Webster and Swinney who went down in FSU game?

Anyone know the NCAA rule on this?
Posted by Ole Colonel 27
Member since Oct 2011
2453 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:36 pm to
If you’ve played les ms than 30% of games you can get medical redshirt.
Posted by TSUNgummybear
In Denial
Member since Jan 2013
496 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 8:39 am to
Go back and look at CJ Johnson's situation for his last year. I believe he got granted a medical redshirt after playing a few games one season.
Posted by DesotoRebel
Member since Nov 2012
452 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:07 pm to
Luke is really doing the work. Getting in with kids all over. I wasn't a fan of his hiring but I'm happy with how he is doing.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27184 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 8:23 pm to
It troubles me that we have 13 O linemen on roster and no O line commits, and 11 wide receivers, with 2 commits. And we are D back and D end heavy compared to D line.

Recruit some fricking lineman. Enough with 15 skill position players.
Posted by rebelcommodore
Vienna
Member since Jun 2014
3728 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 10:23 pm to
We need O Line desperately
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:20 pm to
I don't think we honestly have to tell a former OL coach we need OL. That being said it's only so many you can recruit at this point for the 2018 class. Adding a bunch of bodies is neither here nor there if they trash.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:46 am to
The lineman from alabama will go on the o-line.

If we get the tight end from John Curtis, he will go on the o-line.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27184 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:42 am to
quote:

I don't think we honestly have to tell a former OL coach we need OL.


Look at his O line coaching. Look at his recruiting. Look at the O line recruiting when he was O line coach. I think someone needs to tell him.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 9:46 am
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:33 pm to
Look I was infuriated with the hire. I thought and still believe there were better coaches available. So far though, Luke has done a great job. Transfers were minimal, he is hiring two really good coaches for the staff and appears to be putting together what will probably be a top 25 class in a year absolutely no one expected that. He's the coach, may as well give him a shot now.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17446 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:36 pm to
Honestly we have a good OL bench as of right now. If we bring in 2 OL this year and focus on the Deensive side we will be fine. Next year we likely need +5 OL recruits and should be fine.
Posted by IAmAnOleMissRebel
Member since Jun 2016
254 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:29 pm to
After next year we lose Patterson, Sims, Rawlings, and probably Little. So we definitely need some OL in this class.

Army All American OC Tyrone Sampson named us his leader and is visiting in January. Pretty sure we're after a couple other high profile OL as well. But Sampson could be a good start if we land him
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17446 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

After next year we lose Patterson, Sims, Rawlings, and probably Little. So we definitely need some OL in this class.


We have Givens, Tuitt, Newman, Mathews, Johnson and Brown which I have all heard really good things about. So bring in Sampson and the other big guard that already signed and we are okay, not ideal but okay. Next year we need to focus on OT types and the ones that can’t handle the edge we kick them inside.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 11:28 pm to
I would hope that after losing Massie, Tunsil and Little, that next year Matt Luke could attract another top tackle to come get NFL-ready.

What about the '19 Mississippi class. Any tackles?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17446 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 5:51 am to
Only 1 OT and 1 OG in the top 25 and they are coasties. The OT is committed to Miami already.
Posted by Insideradvantage
Member since Oct 2014
6871 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 8:36 am to
That's one of the problems. Mississippi high school football produces exponentially more skill position players than O linemen.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16537 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:23 am to
quote:

o-line


Sounds like we are banking on some project players to turn into eventual SEC contributors? Can't say I have a whole lot of hope in this type of strategy.
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:10 am to
Project players?

I'm not sure who guys are wanting him to recruit at this point in the 2018 class. He's working on a couple 4 star guys and likely will get Sampson.

If anyone knows what we got and need on the OL it's Luke.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 10:13 am
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16537 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

I'm not sure who guys are wanting him to recruit at this point in the 2018 class


To my knowledge we haven't done well when trying to convert players to a new position. If we need lineman I'd rather Luke or the OL recruiter find a player who actually has OL experience in high school.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 12:37 pm
Posted by TSUNRebel
DeSoto County
Member since May 2014
560 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:13 pm to
Luke has done a really good job hanging on to the o-line. To the point it will be the deepest group on the team next year.

The are 5 returning starters. Little, Patterson, Rawlings, Sims and Givens.

Newman, Tuitt, Johnson, Mathews are returning lettermen and Gray and Brown redshirted and are both capable of playing guard or tackle.

Howard is still playing blocking TE going into his JR season, he's been unable to gain the last 30-35 lbs that would make him an SEC ready o-lineman. He will probably go on to have stellar NFL career, because WOAM. He's holding a scholarship as a lineman. If he can gain the weight he would be a starting tackle or center next season. He needs some creatine in his protein mix.

We lose 2 seniors and Defoor is the only transfer, so we are only down 3 o-linemen. Looks as though we will pick up 2 in recruiting this year.

So considering the scholarship limitations the o-line is in pretty good shape for getting through next year. Luke will need to find a couple of quality walk-ons and a 4 or 5 star, no miss LT the next season.

If I'm not mistaken, there are only 6 WR on scholarship presently: AJ Brown, Terrence Metcalfe, Lodge, Weber, White and Sanders.

It appears they may get 2 more WR that can play next season to add some talent and depth.

They should be solid at TE with Knox, Cooley, Mathis and Angel. They may put Pellerin back at QB to protect a redshirt for Corral, but with limited scholarships i would play Corral and let Pellerin work out with the receivers now that we are thinner at that position.

Running Back is a little iffy, but if Wells and Phillips can add some quickness to the backfield then Swinney and Pennamon should be able to handle to bulk of the carries.

I like Phillips, he reminds me of Walter Payton, he could be a huge surprise

The defense is still a huge question mark, Crime dawg gets one more year to teach players how to tackle and play LB.

Given the 5 year anal probe by the NCAA and their additional bowl ban and scholarships, it could be worse.

So, I think Luke has done an excellent job so far. Let's see what he does when he gets out of this hole.
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