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Are we really going to give Matt Luke an extension?

Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:05 am
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:05 am
Just so he can hire decent coordinators? I thought the whole purpose of hiring him was to babysit the program until the sanctions were over? We are going to have to pay out multi year deals now after we fire him for being 1-8 in November.

It seems so much more economical to fire everyone now.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:33 am to
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Are we really going to give Matt Luke an extension?


Please tell me that this isn't even being thought about, much less discussed.

Unless it already happened and I missed it. In which case, never mind.

Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:36 am to
Thats what Neal and Chase were saying. They have to or the coordinators wont come without some type of safety net.
Posted by BoulderReb
Broomfield, CO
Member since Nov 2013
492 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:51 am to
We're giving an extension to a P5 head coach who won five games this year and six last year.

Let that sink in.

MORE money to put a product that is unwatchable on the field. MORE money to a coach who will likely cost Ole Miss MORE money next season and miss another bowl.

No corporation in the world would continue do this with it's leadership. Heck, calling this leading anything is a joke.

How can this be a justifiable investment? When they have those alumni dinners, how does that go?

Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46375 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:10 am to
If they really give Matt Luke an extension we need to revolt and set up kangaroo courts in the IPF and we can execute the whole lot of them. Guillotine or gallows pick your fate but not Bjork. He’s to be hung, drawn, and quartered and displayed at the corner of s 16th and Lamar
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:12 am to
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How can this be a justifiable investment? When they have those alumni dinners, how does that go?


That is what i wanna talk about. Where is the leadership / accountant?
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 9:14 am
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:13 am to
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When they have those alumni dinners, how does that go?


"Matt's not a good coach. Hasn't won many games. But we get to go on the sidelines at games and get really nice spots in the Grove for our pregame festivities, and since we aren't doing so well, we get to use them during the later parts of games as well. Hell, sometimes we skip the games altogether. Plus, he REALLY loves Ole Miss. Let's give him a few more years."
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:16 am to
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Plus, he REALLY loves Ole Miss. Let's give him a few more years."




I want to see Ole Miss win the west. I will only live so long. We wont win with Luke. I only have so many years.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46375 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:20 am to
This is a complete sham. Bjork has to go so quickly. I thought there’s no way we can get worse than Boone
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:24 am to
It looks like he made a home run hire in Basketball. I think he could have really done a good job with the hire if Luke had lost the Egg Bowl.
Posted by DMagic
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Member since Aug 2010
46375 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:26 am to
We were hiring Luke regardless of the egg bowl. Yes I like Kermit but he’s wanted to come for a few years so how much is Ross really getting credit for that? The fact we are seriously discussing a Luke extension is a fireable offense
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
1019 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:35 am to
If this is true, it really shows the length that the administration is willing to go to dig their heels in on this coaching hire.

I understand the rationale from the point of that the only way to attract potential good coordinator candidates is to guarantee some stability for their position. No one is going to want to make a significant move only to move again if clearing the house after one year is a likely possibility.

However, I don't understand why you simply won't cut your losses and clear house completely. Admit that the Luke experiment failed, it's not going well from a recruiting perspective, the fan base has become incredibly angry/apathetic over the decision.

The possibility of hiring a new coach wasn't even in the pool of possibilities for this admin, so they would be starting woefully late and unprepared; they had a "national search committee" last year and ended up promoting the offensive line coach.

They'll continue to deflect any shortcoming of Luke onto external factors (NCAA, Freeze) to varying success and state that it's only fair that he gets more time (and 3 mil paychecks) to get his guys in the system and his brand of football implemented. Field Goal U.

Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:41 am to
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seriously discussing a Luke extension is a fireable offense


I completely agree.


I don't think we were hiring Luke until after he won the Egg Bowl. We were hiring a power 5 football coach with money guaranteed. NC States coach was at least interested. I've got family there he hates it in Raleigh. The fan base turned on him quick and he didnt like that.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46375 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:43 am to
I don’t know what other outcome happens other than complete revolt if he’s extended and we are saddled with more contracts with which to resolve for the future. As dumb as our fan base is there is a floor to that stupidity. Freeze isn’t an excuse for his poor on field job performance. He is objectively terrible plus he’s as conservative as Cutcliffe
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:48 am to
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However, I don't understand why you simply won't cut your losses and clear house completely. Admit that the Luke experiment failed, it's not going well from a recruiting perspective, the fan base has become incredibly angry/apathetic over the decision.



We need to cut our losses. If the guy had any type of credentials id say yes lets give him more time and a real shot. He was an O line coach! (we thought he was a shitty O line coach) He hasnt even been an OC! If we fired him today would even a Sun Belt or shitty programs like that consider him? I don't think they would maybe an OC.
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:49 am to
You can extend Luke without changing the buyout. You almost have to extend him if he is the guy you are going with moving forward or at least next season.
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:59 am to
This administration is so fricking lost. There is no real leadership.

Vitter is gone and rightfully so.

Bjork needs to be next. How the NCAA investigation was handled was a travesty. If he was allowing Vitter to do his job in these decisions then he ISN'T the guy we need moving forward.

Luke never should have been hired. He can't recruit us out of these times. We have 30-35 D1 prospects in the state of MS yet we still suck in recruiting. If you are going to suck at winning at least give the fans something to hold on to in the recruiting. That isn't happening.

Fans continue to get force fed whatever as if it is what the fan base wanted as a whole. 2011 was bad but you at least had the promise of a new administration and a fresh start. This administration feels like a continuation of the BS weve been going thru the past 5 years.
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6235 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:00 am to
Yeah the buyout wording is what I’d be curious to see. If they increase the buyout I’d be livid.

On paper they can “give him an extension” but that buyout better get lower.

I’m still all aboard the fire Luke train but this administration is proving they love making horrible choices. They will keep pointing to Freeze and the NCAA for years.
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:09 am to
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Yeah the buyout wording is what I’d be curious to see. If they increase the buyout I’d be livid.



They are hiding it according to Chase. It must be awful.
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:11 am to
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You can extend Luke without changing the buyout.


I don't think thats why people are irritated. We will have to buy out all of his assistance we hire. They will all have fresh buyouts in their contracts.
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