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Kentucker
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
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No, murdering babies is not the answer


They’re not babies until they can live on their own. They’re fetuses that will become babies. Then infants, toddlers, prepubescents, teenagers and then adults. You might as well have said, “No, murdering politicians is not the answer.” Or something similar.


ColoradoAg
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
Well, THIS will be an interesting thread. Animal science is necessary, but all the ignorants will be all over this one.


BoerneAg
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
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They’re not babies until they can live on their own.


One year olds can't live on their own. It should be legal to kill them?


Farmer1906
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Most Lsu fans can't either. Kill them too?


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Bulldogblitz
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
In solidarity with this protest, I refuse to wear or purchase any aTm branded clothing


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Kentucker
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
Why is it necessary? Aren’t there alternatives? What’re the positives associated with “saving” every human, defective or not?


Farmer1906
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
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Why is it necessary? Aren’t there alternatives? What’re the positives associated with “saving” every human, defective or not?



Because they are human.


Kentucker
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
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One year olds can't live on their own.


Oh, lawd. Okay, I’ll amend it to “Live outside of the womb.” But I think you knew that.


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Literalist
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
Besides the needed research, nothing is wasted. A&M makes a little cash selling the euthanized dogs to Chinese buffet owners.


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Kentucker
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
How is that a positive? Have you ever traveled to impoverished countries? Is the misery that is their lives a positive for our species?


Kentucker
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
Well, the thread has been anchored but it was a good discussion while it lasted.


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BoerneAg
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
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Have you ever traveled to impoverished countries? Is the misery that is their lives a positive for our species?


We are doing testing on people from impoverished countries? Or are you just trying to make stupid comparisons when their are none?


Kentucker
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
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We are doing testing on people from impoverished countries? Or are you just trying to make stupid comparisons when their are none?


It’s best not to get aggressive when your English is questionable, don’t you think?

Anyway, if you should ever venture to third-world countries, you’ll see that too many people makes for miserable living conditions.


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nerd guy
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
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Caging and hurting golden retrievers is unethical and bad science, and it needs to end now


So this guy is racist against other dog breeds? Typical. We used plenty of pigs, rats, and mice while I was a post-doc. No one's going to protest for those.


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Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
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There are enough humans on this planet. We’re approaching 8 billion for crying out loud.
This is such a bull shite argument. You know there is something you can do about this? Until people that use this argument start offing themselves, I will not take it seriously.


Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
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Animal experimentation is cruel and sick no matter who does it.
Animal experimentation is 100% necessary for medical research. How else are you going to test experimental techniques and medicines? Will your dumbass volunteer to be the first living subject to test?


Lima Whiskey
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
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They’re not babies until they can live on their own. They’re fetuses that will become babies. Then infants, toddlers, prepubescents, teenagers and then adults. You might as well have said, “No, murdering politicians is not the answer.” Or something similar.


There's no magical shift in cognition during birth. And so no differences between killing a child in or outside of the womb.

That's why it's immoral.
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Kentucker
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
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This is such a bull shite argument. You know there is something you can do about this? Until people that use this argument start offing themselves, I will not take it seriously.


So you don’t want anyone arguing for birth control. You should visit an American “slum” and then travel to a third-world country in Africa, South America or the Middle East, which represent the worst current examples of overpopulation. They would happily trade places with American slum dwellers.

Why do you think people from Central America are pouring across our southern border, despite President Trump’s best efforts to stop them? Their countries’ populations are exceeding their resources. Plain and simple example of overpopulation. Birth control and abortion would control this problem. We should tie population control in with any foreign aid we give to those countries.


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Kentucker
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
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Animal experimentation is 100% necessary for medical research. How else are you going to test experimental techniques and medicines?


It absolutely is not necessary for eliminating genetic diseases and defects. It’s necessary only for extending the lives of people who are born with genetic diseases and defects.

Merely monitoring fetuses in the womb and then aborting those with debilitating diseases and defects is far more effective and far less costly than trying to extend their lives after birth so they can procreate as adults and pass them on to the next generation.


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Kentucker
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re: Why does Texas A&M hate Golden Retrievers? Actor arrested for protesting research abuse
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There's no magical shift in cognition during birth. And so no differences between killing a child in or outside of the womb.


Are you seriously saying that a 20-week-old fetus has the same cognitive level as that of a newborn baby? Just a bit of research will show you that that thinking is inaccurate.

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That's why it's immoral.


How do you feel about A&M and UK breeding dogs to exhibit genetic diseases? Is that immoral?


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