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re: Why are most crimes committed by minorities?

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Posted by deltaland
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Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:43 pm to
Still hasn't surpassed my mushrooms vs anteaters thread
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:48 pm to
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The problem with these statements is schools aren't funded by the districts, correct? Don't they receive mostly State funds to operate?



I honestly don't know. I was under the impression that property taxes had a lot to do with a school district's funding. Again, that would explain why certain school districts have nice schools and others don't.

But that's just the impression I had. It could be completely different.

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Parents being more involved in their childs education, going to conferences, actually being with the teacher to push the child to excel, rather than blaming the teacher for the child's failures. These are problems that seemed common that my ex GF (TFA girl) ran into.


Oh they're real problems. I don't doubt that. I've seen it first hand.

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Maybe we should let local areas fund schools that are in districts with an average income above the poverty level (via local taxes), and poor districts be funded by the State so we can concentrate more funds to improve education in poor areas...along with a crackdown on corrupt individuals to make sure the money benefits the kids.



Yeah, especially the last part.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:53 pm to
Depends on the state, I think. In Alabama, the base amount each school receives is the same based on student enrollment. But schools in districts with higher property taxes receive more money. Mt Brook's property taxes are basically private school tuition.
Posted by UMTigerRebel
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:55 pm to
Property taxes impact how much funding a school has. We're in Fayette County and it is extremely poor and the property tax rates are extremely low. My oldest is in a small private school in the county because I refuse to send her to the public schools. The public schools perform poorly and 98% of the students are on free lunches.

I think poverty has more to do with this whole subject than anything else.

Also, I appreciate your last response to me. We may not agree on the daycare part of it, but my opinion of you regarding minorities is different (not that it matters to you as it is a message board, but just thought I would let you know).

ETA: you pay for education in my area one way or another. Either through property taxes or private schooling.
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 9:03 pm
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 11:09 pm to
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Property taxes impact how much funding a school has. We're in Fayette County and it is extremely poor and the property tax rates are extremely low.


That's a dumb system. All that does is exacerbate the problem by providing better schooling and utilities to affluent areas and not enough resources to poor areas, for no other reason than it is poor. You can't expect much production from poor areas with this setup.

I think we should reform that to where a school gets funding through

1. Enrollment
2. Graduation rate
3. Overall test score incentives
4. Proof of need (prove that books are outdated, facilities are out of repair, etc)

This would ensure that the better a job the school does, the more funding and better facilities/pay for teachers and administrators can get.
Posted by Slippery Slope
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 7:23 am to
Today I learned that a racist farmer in Indianola knows nothing...yet shockingly believes he knows everything.
Posted by UMTigerRebel
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 7:56 am to
I oversimplified a bit, but pretty much the schools are shitty because it's a poor county, which is why my child is in a private school. It's not ideal either, as in her entire first grade the only minority is one Hispanic child, and there's probably less than a dozen minorities in the entire school. So in a sense, there's still segregation going on in this county.

I would go into the clusterfrick that is Memphis/Shelby County schools, but that would take entirely too long.

Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:00 am to
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Today I learned that a racist farmer in Indianola knows nothing...yet shockingly believes he knows everything.


Slope, is everything he said wrong?
Posted by Slippery Slope
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:11 am to
Most everything he says is wrong. He thought that Madison Central and Byhalia High School are basically the same schools with the same amount of money. That's dumb.


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That's a dumb system. All that does is exacerbate the problem by providing better schooling and utilities to affluent areas and not enough resources to poor areas, for no other reason than it is poor. You can't expect much production from poor areas with this setup.


Motherfricking duh. Most people realized this at 11.

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I think we should reform that to where a school gets funding through 1. Enrollment 2. Graduation rate 3. Overall test score incentives 4. Proof of need (prove that books are outdated, facilities are out of repair, etc)


This doesn't work either. You can't be like "oh well you live in an impoverished area and 50% of your classmates never learned to read so whatever frick you sorry you can't have books or teachers that get paid reasonably. I know you really wanted to go to college but you should have thought about that before your mom birthed you into this situation."

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3. Overall test score incentives


This has been tried. It leads to cheating and corruption.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 9:15 am
Posted by UMTigerRebel
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:36 am to
I'd like to know how many private schools in the rural south were founded around the time of integration.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:44 am to
Wow. This thread is still here?
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:45 am to
It's the SECOT

threads hang around for a minimum of a week due to little traffic
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:47 am to
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I honestly don't know. I was under the impression that property taxes had a lot to do with a school district's funding. Again, that would explain why certain school districts have nice schools and others don't.

But that's just the impression I had. It could be completely different.


That's how it is in Texas, and this is exemplified by the lack of income taxes, so our property taxes are high than most. Also, thanks to that Socialist George W. Bush, we redistribute income to other school districts. I think close to 70% of Plano's income goes to others. But then that's when in affluent areas you get fundraisers and shite, and the rich people just overcome it by paying the local schools and such directly by payings $1000 for an auctioned off piece of shite Beanie Baby or something(I went to elementary school in the 90s all you youngins probably wouldn't understand the reference).
Posted by aslavey
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Posted by The Calvin
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:09 pm to
Race might win the 2013 Most Popular Topic award yet again
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:38 pm to
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Race might win the 2013 Most Popular Topic award yet again





Looks like it, but the Phil Robertson gay controversy is coming from behind















:rimshot:
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 2:39 pm
Posted by 3nOut
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:43 pm to
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That's how it is in Texas, and this is exemplified by the lack of income taxes, so our property taxes are high than most. Also, thanks to that Socialist George W. Bush, we redistribute income to other school districts. I think close to 70% of Plano's income goes to others. But then that's when in affluent areas you get fundraisers and shite, and the rich people just overcome it by paying the local schools and such directly by payings $1000 for an auctioned off piece of shite Beanie Baby or something(I went to elementary school in the 90s all you youngins probably wouldn't understand the reference).



my entire salary for my first job out of college came from Chapter 41 (robin hood funds.)

Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:54 pm to
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What's the deal?


What do you think?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:57 pm to
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my entire salary for my first job out of college came from Chapter 41 (robin hood funds.)


My mother does public relations for Mesquite ISD, and I really support Robin Hood funds. A lot of good has come out of them, imo.
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