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re: where is the middle ground re: this coronavirus that came.from China?

Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by tomato patch
Member since Apr 2019
652 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:14 pm to
The Pacific Ocean
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66968 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:25 am to
Either the Chinese made it in a lab and released it accidentally, the Chinese made it in a lab and released it on purpose, or the Americans made it in a lab and sold it to China
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:44 am to
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ither the Chinese made it in a lab and released it accidentally, the Chinese made it in a lab and released it on purpose

I think one of these
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:33 pm to
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frick China


Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:35 pm to
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Either the Chinese made it in a lab and released it accidentally, the Chinese made it in a lab and released it on purpose, or the Americans made it in a lab and sold it to China


I mean, if China were to release an illness it would look exactly like this one.

Doesn't affect children, seems to disproportionately affect countries with older, healthier citizens (long lifespan) and those who have severe health problems.

Really, that's a wet-dream for a country that wants to cut down on spending (since they have state sponsored healthcare) and doesn't want to have to actually pay for it.

Unfortunately, the rest of the world found out -- Chinese citizens leaked the truth and disappeared. Countries are already leaving China and we're well on our way to another economic cold war.

Though China won't be able to feed its population.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12023 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 12:54 pm to
Lets call those 21 million Chinese cell phone users that disappeared and ask them. 21 million
Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
2790 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:19 am to
Balance and practicality are impossible when you measure truth and falsehood, not by the value of the data, but whether the source of the data has the same letter "R" or "D" behind their names as you do.

People who identify as their "ideology" about all do NOT care about the United States. They only care that the other party looks bad, no matter what. It's a society cancer.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 10:15 pm to
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People who identify as their "ideology" about all do NOT care about the United States. They only care that the other party looks bad, no matter what. It's a society cancer.

QFT
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15786 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 7:32 am to
I hate when people take an absolute and look for middle ground. Right and wrong are real empirical things.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 9:17 am to
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I hate when people take an absolute and look for middle ground. Right and wrong are real empirical things.



QFT
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22377 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:01 pm to
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Lets call those 21 million Chinese cell phone users that disappeared and ask them. 21 million



It seems impossible that they could cover up that many deaths or anywhere close to that many.

It reminds me of a trick the military used during the Clinton years. I only know about it because I was in a unit involved.

During the Clinton years the military would like to claim all these units had been disbanded. And then based on political leanings they would say oh he's downsizing and saving money, or he's weakening the military and it's critical.

My unit was one of those disbanded and was part of that stat. What those stats did not mention was the creation of a new unit. Basically we changed out the names on shite. Same unit, same equipment, same barracks, same everything - except for the unit name.

I always look at stats like this with a bit of a skeptical eye because they are easy to skew that way.
Posted by NoMansLand
Member since Jun 2017
1038 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:03 pm to
I had never seen footage until a couple of days ago showing Wuhan residents being dragged out of their houses forcefully into quarantine. Whether or not you think the virus was intentionally released, got to hand it the the Chinese government in knowing how to strong arm citizens.

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Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:31 am to
The virus came here from Europe actually.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 11:20 am to
Ohhhhh no. They look like less inbred versions of us so there is no way this can be true.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5702 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:31 pm to
I think they released it on purpose to affect the world economy the way it did. I believe their main goal was bringing down the US economy so Trump would loose the election. They hate Trump because he is pushing back and costing them lots of money with the new trade imbalance. They just sacrificed some of their people by infecting them. They did that for one of two reasons. Either to make sure it would work as planned and be highly contagious or infect them so they could spread it around the world by traveling to other countries. The strategy of them shutting down air travel within China but continued to allow international flights. There is no other explanation
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25156 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:10 pm to
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I think they released it on purpose to affect the world economy the way it did. I believe their main goal was bringing down the US economy so Trump would loose the election. They hate Trump because he is pushing back and costing them lots of money with the new trade imbalance. They just sacrificed some of their people by infecting them. They did that for one of two reasons. Either to make sure it would work as planned and be highly contagious or infect them so they could spread it around the world by traveling to other countries. The strategy of them shutting down air travel within China but continued to allow international flights. There is no other explanation




Oh FFS.

I would tell you never, never, believe in a vast conspiracy when something that can be explained by simple incompetence. But you would not believe me. You will go to your grave believing this and there is nothing I can say or do to change your mind.

However, for the record, unleashing a virus that destroys the world economy... which, I should add, China is utterly dependent on, and having it come from your country so that you become an international pariah (China is getting a lot of negative feedback on this around the world) is quite possibly the dumbest master plan for world domination I've ever heard of.

I won't even get into the fact that we have the genetic blueprint for this virus and thousands and thousands of scientists have said it isn't genetically engineered.

Its a virus people. They pop up all the time and this one happens to be particularly dangerous, but not nearly as dangerous as some throughout history. China screwed up in their initial handling of the virus, then shut down things in their country, while maintaining the illusions (via international flights) that everything was under control.

After that various countries have handled this with varying degrees of success. Or abject failure.

But by all means. Its a really shitty Chinese bioweapon. Or perhaps the Reptillians. The Rothschilds? The Mole Men maybe?
Posted by NoMansLand
Member since Jun 2017
1038 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 6:45 pm to
TLDR; Trump is literally the stupidest POS ever elected to any political office. Yeah, he wants to keep your guns intact (doubt he ever fired one). For God’s sake people, do you not cringe with every utterance or tweet? Is Biden better? Probably not but we are desperate for MAYBE hope?
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