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re: What Common Core is teaching kids - nsfw? you be the judge
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:36 am to UMTigerRebel
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:36 am to UMTigerRebel
suppose to be same thing but the mac likes to autocorrect shite
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Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:39 am to MrTide33
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I just don't see sex education as the job of public education
Perhaps, but unfortunately some parents just aren't going to do it and we end up with a bunch of unplanned teen pregnancies. And for a lot of people it continues the welfare cycle. I'd rather we attempt to break that cycle, but parents should have the choice to opt their children out of it if it's being taught in their school. I think that'd be irresponsible as reinforcement is usually a good thing.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:43 am to The Spleen
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parents should have the choice to opt their children out of it if it's being taught in their school
This would make it okay. At least the parents who opt their kids out will probably be self-educating
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:44 am to The Spleen
this is where cheaper and easier access to abortions comes in. we take away the money for being a baby farmer and we open up other avenues to handle the problem.
also these are cases where adoption should be brought up. most of these babies don't really haven anything wrong with them other than maybe trashy genes
also these are cases where adoption should be brought up. most of these babies don't really haven anything wrong with them other than maybe trashy genes
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 10:53 am
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:44 am to Alahunter
my first sex ed class was in 5th grade if I remember correctly (Georgia). This doesn't really seem *that* out of place if the parents are aware of it. If something like this is being read in class without the parents knowledge then I could see a problem there, but it just doesn't seem like that big of a deal.
At least it's not 1+1=3 and then trying to say as long as you know the process the answer doesn't matter like I saw in some of the common core math bullshite
At least it's not 1+1=3 and then trying to say as long as you know the process the answer doesn't matter like I saw in some of the common core math bullshite
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:45 am to MrTide33
they actually gave parents that choice at my school. We had to bring home a form and get it signed. I don't remember any parent turning it down.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:51 am to UMRealist
The private school I went to actually prepared me for college pretty well...but we had zero sex ed. Not really abstinence education...just no sex ed at all. We did have some Bible classes though.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:53 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
if we didn't have to have bible i could have taken 2 or 3 classes my senior year but no we had to have bible and they wouldn't let us only take a half day.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:08 am to Duke
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Please tell me you're trolling.
What teen is super concerned with consequences? Nature is telling them to frick, and you expect a show to change their mind?
Also teens doing stuff in secret is a surefire road to awful decision making. If sex didn't make everyone so uncomfortable, maybe they could talk to adults who can actually use the rational parts of their brains.
The worldview you're posting from is unrealistic.
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Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:09 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Huh. Well glad I was wrong and 16 and Pregnant has done some good.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:10 am to Alahunter
Totally fine with it. I don't understand the negative reactions either.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:11 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
They then analyzed geographic data to see whether locations with higher search activity and tweets about "16 and Pregnant" showed higher levels of searches and tweets about birth control and abortion.
They did.
The researchers also looked to see whether high viewership in certain areas corresponded with a bigger drop in teen births.
It did.
"The results of our analysis indicate that exposure to '16 and Pregnant' was high and that it had an influence on teens' thinking regarding birth control and abortion," the researchers write.
That's all well and scientific, but could a TV show really have that big of an impact on teen birth rates?
"It's an extraordinary study done by two very cautious economists," said Bill Albert, chief program officer at the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy. "I jokingly refer to them as Drs. No because they generally set out to say, 'That doesn't work.' For that reason alone, we take it very seriously."
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:12 am to Duke
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Huh. Well glad I was wrong and 16 and Pregnant has done some good.
Media is by far a stronger outlet than these silly books. I'm also not advocating abstinence only, but there are so many better ways we can do this without imposing an agenda either way.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:13 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I would like to note there has been a decline in the teen birth rate for years now, I think, because of an increased openness about sex. Hell, I think it's fair to argue that 16 and Pregnant is an example of that.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:16 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Media is by far a stronger outlet than these silly books.
Certainly.
It doesn't mean the book is worthless.
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there are so many better ways we can do this without imposing an agenda either way.
What agenda is this book pushing exactly? That masturbation is normal and girls will grow boobs. Radical ideas there, man.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:17 am to Duke
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I would like to note there has been a decline in the teen birth rate for years now, I think, because of an increased openness about sex. Hell, I think it's fair to argue that 16 and Pregnant is an example of that
It's clearly not the only cause but I honestly think that there's been a pretty huge anti-baby movement (which is a good thing) in America. They used to be deified and I see it more here in Mexico than back home but when you see a commercial?
It's always of a guy turning in something he likes so he can provide for the baby. There's a trope where babies are just not that great anymore and tons of studies that are emerging that says that for now (not in the past) having a child at a young age is a deathwish. There is a lot of stuff, but having a book taught to 4th graders ain't gonna do anything other than get 'em started even earlier.
Tons of 11 year olds aren't having sex, the average is 25% at -age 15-. I'm completely comfortable with that age.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:21 am to Duke
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I would like to note there has been a decline in the teen birth rate for years now, I think, because of an increased openness about sex.
Agree, but I think there are some other factors at play. Women's lib had some to do with it. I have an aunt that got pregnant in high school in the 60's, and she was pretty much labeled a whore and ended up having to drop out and go live with relative's 2 states away. She said most of the abuse she received was from the teachers and administrators at the school, not her classmates. She was always bitter the boy never got admonished. She miscarried the baby a few months into the pregnancy, and she feels the stress she was put under was the main cause of it.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:23 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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There is a lot of stuff, but having a book taught to 4th graders ain't gonna do anything other than get 'em started even earlier.
Doubtful. Nature tells them to do it about the time the pussy bleeds and the balls drop. All this book does it saying all these things will happen to you and it's normal. The lesser the stigma, the more likely a kid is going to reach out for help. Making sex more shameful does not.
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It's clearly not the only cause but I honestly think that there's been a pretty huge anti-baby movement (which is a good thing) in America.
I see much promise in the trend of people waiting to have babies. Though there are economic reasons to thank for that as well. I argue that the increased openness about sex is a large part of that.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:26 am to Duke
I can see how showing the truth behind sex could work. The consequences of being a young teen and pregnant don't vary all that much. You are an outcast, probably going to end up stupid and trashy. so the truth is fairly simple to get out.
It is a lot harder to convey the same message with drugs and alcohol because the levels vary so much and just because you toke doesn't men you will end up living in a van down by the river.
It is a lot harder to convey the same message with drugs and alcohol because the levels vary so much and just because you toke doesn't men you will end up living in a van down by the river.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:28 am to The Spleen
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She was always bitter the boy never got admonished
This is a topic for another thread, but I've always thought it funny that sexually active females can be labeled whore, slut, tramp, hooker, prostitute, etc, but there is no equivalent male term. Unless you put male in front of some of the labels I mentioned, one assumes you are talking about a female.
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