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re: Voter ID: For or Against
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:24 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:24 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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The idea of being able to vote without proving who you are is baffling to me.
The idea of being able to vote without proving who you are is baffling to me.
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:32 pm to Stonehog
Your argument is flawed.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:33 pm to UMRealist
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Your argument is flawed.
Oh?
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:33 pm to Roger Klarvin
Why should you have to prove who you are?
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:34 pm to Stonehog
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Why don't you believe Bielema about his concerns for player safety, but you believe Republicans who say voter ID is about election integrity?
You're comparing apples to Muslims
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:36 pm to Stonehog
Believing the suggested intent of the proposed law (election integrity) does not mean that you believe those proposing the law are doing it for the same reason.
For instance, you used Bert and the HUNH as your example. Well there are some people who truly believe that the HUNH is potentially dangerous for the athletes and naturally they are going to side with Bert and Saban who claim the same concern but actually many assume have ulterior motives.
For instance, you used Bert and the HUNH as your example. Well there are some people who truly believe that the HUNH is potentially dangerous for the athletes and naturally they are going to side with Bert and Saban who claim the same concern but actually many assume have ulterior motives.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:40 pm to UMRealist
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For instance, you used Bert and the HUNH as your example. Well there are some people who truly believe that the HUNH is potentially dangerous for the athletes and naturally they are going to side with Bert and Saban who claim the same concern but actually many assume have ulterior motives.
Exactly. Some people arguing against the hurry up have ulterior motives. Just like some people who want voter IDs have ulterior motives. That's why I compared them in the first place. Are you trying to say these scenarios are dissimilar?
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:50 pm to Stonehog
Not at all. Perhaps I've misunderstood but I was under the impression that you were implying that our A&M friend believed politicians motives were pure because his were. Thus inserting your bert comparison. Forgive me if I'm mistaken.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:54 pm to UMRealist
I'm just wondering why he thinks Bielema is lying, but politicians are telling the truth.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:57 pm to Stonehog
My point was, where did he say politicians are telling the truth?
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:59 pm to UMRealist
One page back.
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Do you pro-voter ID people believe that it's an issue of election integrity?
Yes I do.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:01 pm to Stonehog
Again, that is my point. He didn't say he believes that all republicans care about is election integrity. He said he does.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:02 pm to UMRealist
No, he said it's an issue of election integrity.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:05 pm to Stonehog
Ah I see where the confusion is coming from now. I took a different meaning of the word "issue" from your original question.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:07 pm to UMRealist
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:17 pm to UMRealist
I may have the same confusion, but stand by my beliefs unswayed.
I do think that voter ID would stop some illegals from voting. I think on a more minimal front it'll stop "fraud"
Just because some people that suck (republicans) agree with it doesn't make it a bad thing. Do you stop supporting the Hogs because Republicans root for them as well? They may have racist ulterior motives (I doubt it, but I'm sure some are a holes like that,) but it doesn't mean the idea itself is bad.
I do think that voter ID would stop some illegals from voting. I think on a more minimal front it'll stop "fraud"
Just because some people that suck (republicans) agree with it doesn't make it a bad thing. Do you stop supporting the Hogs because Republicans root for them as well? They may have racist ulterior motives (I doubt it, but I'm sure some are a holes like that,) but it doesn't mean the idea itself is bad.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:21 pm to Stonehog
I don't understand why any American that is concerned about the future of this entity would be opposed to voter ID?
It's just common sense. Every voter needs to have some skin in the game.
It's just common sense. Every voter needs to have some skin in the game.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:52 pm to 3nOut
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Just because some people that suck (replicans) agree with it doesn't make it a bad thing
Is it bad if those people support voter ID because it will suppress certain minorities?
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:56 pm to Stonehog
I didn't notice that their was any language about minorities in the law as it stands or V&S's question as posed.
I think that's inferred on the left's view. Again... Why do you think minorities wouldn't be able or willing to get an ID? Kinda bigoted.
I think that's inferred on the left's view. Again... Why do you think minorities wouldn't be able or willing to get an ID? Kinda bigoted.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:58 pm to 3nOut
We've already been over this bro! 
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