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Time machine allows you to go back in time. The one caveat is simple ....

Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:05 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:05 pm
You can only go back in time and you can only go back to one very specific date ... midnight 22 June 1787.

You will be picked-up exactly one year later at midnight on 21 June 1788.

These dates are fundamental to the purpose of your agreeing to take this trip.

You've got roughly 90 days until the U.S. Constitution is created, and one year until it is then ratified (from the original date you arrived.)

You'll have access to Jefferson, Franklin and Adams both individually and together.

What wording do you change, what do you subtract and/or add to the original document?

You may acknowledge the fact, to the three gentlemen mentioned above, that you are from the future and explain to them why you want certain wording changed, subtracted or added-to and give them examples of what went wrong that needs to be corrected for the sake of the future.

Edited Subject line "pne" to "one."
This post was edited on 3/22/15 at 11:07 pm
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:07 pm to
I already did this. Without my guidance, blacks would only have counted as 1/5 of a vote.
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:08 pm to
Isn't this how scientology was created?
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:08 pm to
quote:

What wording do you change, what do you subtract and/or add to the original document?


I'd clarify the second amendment.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear assault rifles, handguns, machine guns, flamethrowers and any type of chemical, nuclear or biological weapon, shall not be infringed.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:12 pm to
Scrooster, this is too much responsibility for any of the nuts on this board.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

Time machine allows you to go back in time.


quote:

only go back to one very specific date ... midnight 22 June 1787


quote:

U.S.


I decline the offer to go back in time
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:15 pm to
Tbird, we're trying to kill race week. You're not helping.
Posted by pivey14
In Your Head
Member since Mar 2012
15445 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:16 pm to
I tell Hancock to not be such a pompous dick and sign his name like the rest of us.
This post was edited on 3/22/15 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

Tbird, we're trying to kill race week. You're not helping.


Race Week is always entertaining if nothing else. Stop being a douche.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:17 pm to
I'm sorry.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

Race Week is always entertaining if nothing else. Stop being a douche.


Nah, KSG is right.

I'll stand down and play ball
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

Nah, KSG is right.


Okie dokie.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:21 pm to
I would strongly encourage them to make clear the binding finality of joining the Union.

None of this secession bullshite.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Member since Aug 2013
7666 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:50 pm to
I would have them include term limits on those elected to Congress.
Posted by derSturm37
Texas
Member since May 2013
1521 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:36 am to
quote:

I would strongly encourage them to make clear the binding finality of joining the Union.
None of this secession bullshite.

Doubt many if any of the original 14 states would have ratified this. No one has ever knocked down a door to sign a contract with a "binding finality" in it. Even Faust had an escape clause up his sleeve.

quote:

I would have them include term limits on those elected to Congress.

Yeah. Not terrible in spirit. But wouldn't this just encourage your typical congressperson to get as much graft as possible as quickly as possible before the destined deadline? Make him start off speeding?
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It's a good question, OP. It really is. If nothing else you made me go back and read the damned thing for the first time in like 10 years.

Just the other night right here on tRant I said something like: If Jefferson had known what idiots we would become he probably wouldn't have supported democracy in the first place. But when you really consider the prospects of amending The First Amendment you're forced to consider much. Do we get free speech and press except what's bad for us? Who's us? What's bad? And how much? It's probably better off left untouched. We're destined to fruitcake our way back to the stone age because of it, but who wants to go to the trouble to list ALL the shite you should never write or say? frick us. Just let us be fricked.

I might go for an extra 2 Amendments in the BoR. To make for an even 12, a number as good as 10. (Cuz 11 would kinda suck). This just to prevent some future bothersome bullshite. One would say something like: "Congress shall make no law favoring the rights of the yet borne fetusse over those of its mother when the rights of the two seem discordant." Or some such.

The other would prohibit prohibition by stating that the role of law is to protect the individual from others; that protecting the sane, sound, adult individual from himself would be an intolerable tyranny.

I mean since we're GOING to fruitcake our asses back to the stone age, anyway, we might as well do so with uninhibited whores, drugs, and slot machines.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:14 am to
quote:

Doubt many if any of the original 14 states would have ratified this. No one has ever knocked down a door to sign a contract with a "binding finality" in it.


I know Would have gone over like a lead balloon in the midst of the colonies trying to secede from the Crown themselves
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:09 am to
Medical insurance for all
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:17 am to
I wouldn't want to go back in time. Much more interested in the future. Let me go to 22 June 2787.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:19 am to
Whatever you change the judges would still interpret it the way they want to.
Posted by JacketFan77
Tiger, GA
Member since Nov 2012
2554 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:52 am to
And why are these dudes going to listen to me? I'm a "giant" man with tattoos, speaking with a strange accent and possessing no letters of introduction. I'm gonna be lucky if I make it the year before being hanged or thrown in a bunk next to Queequeg on some whaler. Any chance you can hook me up with one of those powdery wigs and some stockings?
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 7:55 am
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