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re: So the guy at the press conference saying 9/11 was an inside job

Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:27 pm to
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:27 pm to
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This is what they always ignore. They ignore the THOUSANDS of people who would be likely to just accidently stumble across damning information beforehand and in the years that followed. It's just not conceivable that that could be kept under wraps.



Is this why other nations intelligence tried to warn us?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:30 pm to
Who is denying that?

Nobody is denying that there were real fears, both from within and abroad, of a major terrorist attack on US soil at some point. That is very different from someone saying "Here is what will happen, when it will happen, where it will happen and here are the guys about to do it" and our government ignoring it.
Posted by Hardy_Har
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:32 pm to
Just because other countries tried to warn us doesn't mean it was planned or allowed. We work with them, and also knew the threat existed but didn't take that particular avenue of approach seriously enough. If I walked up with a balled up fist then (years later) finally punched you in the face would that mean you planned it?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:34 pm to
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Also, don't think I missed the fact you completely ignored the financial paragraph, the one explaining that there are trillions of reasons for there to be some people remaining quiet. Maybe because there wasn't a ready-made response for that one.


Because, like the death thing, it's been used for every conspiracy theory in American history. Everything always has people dying and financial information disappearing and/or people making money off the event in question.

It doesn't mean anything because, if one were to write a book about a made up conspiracy, financial motives would always be part of it. Following the conspiracy script isn't a great way to get people to believe it.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:37 pm to
But there is fact that supports those claims about the financial issues. On 9/10 Rumsfeld gave a speech declaring trillions in Pentagon spending was unaccounted for, and there is no denying that the Pentagon and WTC 7 were the only two locations that housed this sensitive data, both were destroyed.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 11:41 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:40 pm to
Of course there is, the most significant financial buildings on planet earth were destroyed.

That's like blowing up the Smithsonian and then saying it was a government conspiracy to destroy major historical items. Well, duh. Probably why the terrorists did it, huh?
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 11:42 pm
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:43 pm to
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That's like blowing up the Smithsonian and then saying it was a government conspiracy to destroy major historical items. Well, duh. Probably why the terrorists did it, huh?


Actually that's a terrible analogy.

It's more like this -- A man says trillions of dollars can't be accounted for, then the only two locations that house the data that would trace it get destroyed.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:50 pm to
So he says it the day before he knows the buildings that house the information about said trillions are about to be destroyed?

Not a very good way to try and cover it up, seems like drawing a lot of unnecessary attention to yourself.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:07 am to
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So he says it the day before he knows the buildings that house the information about said trillions are about to be destroyed?

Not a very good way to try and cover it up, seems like drawing a lot of unnecessary attention to yourself


The ironic thing is it seems a lot of the time the person trying to refute a 'theory' is the one dealing in the realm of theory. I have no idea why Rumsfeld said what he said, maybe he wasn't in on it, maybe he was and wanted to leave a clue, who knows.

What I do know is both locations that house data for trillions of missing dollars, unthinkable amounts of financial fraud, and insider trading corruption were destroyed. This data was designed to be stored in two different cities, in highly protected buildings for a reason, and they both were destroyed on the same day. I have a little bit of an issue with that, especially when there is so much controversy around the way WTC 7 collapsed.

I'm assuming you saw the paragraph about wanting to build the house and then look at it, instead of trying to imagine what the house looks like before building it. Learning and accepting information like this financial stuff is a part of building the house, it's a small part, but still part of it. You can't just throw out a 2x4 because it doesn't build an entire home, you have to realize that it's part of the building process.

To research and understand everything and then take the stance that the official story is correct, that's totally fine, but to not let data and facts build on your knowledge of something makes it impossible to ever make a fair assessment.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 12:10 am
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 12:54 am to
The internet has done for conspiracy theorists what the printing press did for Protestants.

Keep on truckin, you tinfoil hat wearers. Keep on, truckin.
Posted by Wtodd
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 6:57 am to
quote:

To research and understand everything and then take the stance that the official story is correct, that's totally fine, but to not let data and facts build on your knowledge of something makes it impossible to ever make a fair assessment.


I rarely post at night so I had to play catch-up this morning. You made, IMO, some valid comments concerning the financial data that was "lost" and the way WTC 7 "fell". Anyone that sees the video of WTC 7 falling and Larry Silverstein's interview saying they decided to "pull it" should be able to put 2 & 2 together.

The other comments about moving to another country are just ridiculous and ignorant.

FYI - I'm a Protestant and proud!
Posted by Hardy_Har
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:10 am to
It's a good thing you guys are using slant videos and select excerpts of quotes to put the pieces together. Us tens of thousands of govt workers with extremely high access and free roam to real time foreign intelligence could really learn something from you..
Posted by Wtodd
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:04 am to
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Hardy_Har


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Us tens of thousands of govt workers with extremely high access and free roam to real time foreign intelligence


This quote alone tells me you're a complete fraud. You probably work the midnight shift at 7-11
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:11 am to
You never answered my question about the mole people.
Posted by Hardy_Har
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:46 am to
Ok buddy
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