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re: So the guy at the press conference saying 9/11 was an inside job

Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:16 am to
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:16 am to
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The plane that hit the Pentagon: according to the official story, the plane hit the building at 2' off the ground at 400+ MPH and the entire plane went inside the building thru an 18' to 20' hole. How did the plane do this? The wings folded back after impact and the whole thing went thru the opening, yet there wasn't a mark on the building where the wings hit. Just think about that for a moment.


That makes perfect sense. The plane disintegrated on impact with a solid concrete structure as one would expect. Without actual video, it's very difficult to put together what angle the wings hit the building at if there was much left of them at all.
Posted by jwuga
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:18 am to
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The plane that hit the Pentagon: according to the official story, the plane hit the building at 2' off the ground at 400+ MPH and the entire plane went inside the building thru an 18' to 20' hole. How did the plane do this? The wings folded back after impact and the whole thing went thru the opening, yet there wasn't a mark on the building where the wings hit. Just think about that for a moment.

This is just one example.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:23 am to
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That makes perfect sense. The plane disintegrated on impact with a solid concrete structure as one would expect. Without actual video, it's very difficult to put together what angle the wings hit the building at if there was much left of them at all.


You missed the point of what the official story says: neither the plane nor the wings disintegrated; the nose of the plane hit the building and created said 18' to 20' hole and kept going in the building. When the wings hit the building (still attached to the plane), they folded back (not disintegrate or fell off) and went thru the opening the nose made.

IF the plane would have disintegrated (which seems more plausible to me), then pieces (seats, luggage, fuselage, etc) of the plane would have been all over the place and that's not the case.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:26 am to
So you're telling me the official report says the plane flew into the building and stayed totally in tact through that impact?

That's silly.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:32 am to
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So you're telling me the official report says the plane flew into the building and stayed totally in tact through that impact?


Technically the wings weren't attached but (hard to explain) they "folded back" & went thru the hole along side with the plane (I think you know what I'm trying to say). There was a story done about it with a computer generation on the Discovery Channel to substantiate the official story.

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That's silly.


I agree
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:34 am to
The wings folding back isn't crazy. Seems like everything would be forced through the initial breach. I can see that.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:35 am to
Yessssss

This is what I wanted
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:40 am to
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The wings folding back isn't crazy. Seems like everything would be forced through the initial breach. I can see that.


At 400+ MPH they would have snapped off like a twig or disentegrated but there is no way this happened the way they said it happened and there isn't a mark on the building.

Like I said, go read the report and believe what you want and there was a time when I thought & said as you do.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:53 am to
So in your opinion, who poses a greater threat: the lizard men or mole people?
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:04 pm to
wtodd must be a mograyback alter. that or them mizzou fan base is full of conspiracy nuts
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:16 pm to
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wtodd must be a mograyback alter. that or them mizzou fan base is full of conspiracy nuts


Apparently.

Some conspiracies I understand. JFK, Roswell, ect...
9/11 is fricking crazy though. Like I always say, if Nixon couldn't keep Watergate under wraps how the frick did GWB keep a conspiracy under cover that would have to have thousands of people involved.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:18 pm to
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wtodd must be a mograyback alter. that or them mizzou fan base is full of conspiracy nuts


It's the later. The former is back again as Sleeping Tiger per request of his fellow Mizzou fans from the other day's reinstatement threads.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:21 pm to
It's a topic that's long been an easy target to laugh at, and rightfully so, but if you take the time with an open mind you'll find a lot that goes against what we've been told.

The Loose Changes and Zeitgeists don't cut it, that's more about sensationalism and entertainment.

Also, 'inside job' doesn't necessarily mean our government did it. Saudi Arabia is where my finger is pointing.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68531 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:32 pm to
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It's a topic that's long been an easy target to laugh at, and rightfully so, but if you take the time with an open mind you'll find a lot that goes against what we've been told.

The Loose Changes and Zeitgeists don't cut it, that's more about sensationalism and entertainment.

Also, 'inside job' doesn't necessarily mean our government did it.


Careful or you'll be considered a nut too for not believing everything you're being told. I'm not asking anyone to believe what I believe; all I've asked is for you to read, do some research and use your common sense. I agree with you about Loose Changes and Zeitgeists but they too have some "kernals" worth looking at if you can weed out all the over the top stuff.

Somebody actually said they believe the Roswell conspiracy but not this? Just Wow!!

Someone else said that it would take thousands to pull this off...try less than 50 and it's amazing what people will do for money and in the name of patriotism. I've been in and around the defense industry for 35 years.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:35 pm to
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Careful or you'll be considered a nut too for not believing everything you're being told.


Too late for that.

Just a suggestion, do what you want, but trying to sway people on here isn't worth it. Especially the way you just tried.

And yeah, it is interesting when people entertain alien stuff but they won't entertain this topic. Strange, indeed.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:38 pm to
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Just a suggestion, do what you want, but trying to sway people on here isn't worth it. Especially the way you just tried.


Seriously I wasn't trying, just explaining; trying to type something that needs pictures isn't always easy.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:40 pm to
yea i can understand some but highly doubt the gov could pull off 9/11.

i could maybe believe a pearl harbor like scenario for 9/11 but not a inside job.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:43 pm to
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i could maybe believe a pearl harbor like scenario for 9/11 but not a inside job.


I'm with you on that point.

Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:44 pm to
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Seriously I wasn't trying, just explaining; trying to type something that needs pictures isn't always easy.


One small issue at a time doesn't sway people, especially when you're incomplete on that issue.

They have to choose to do the work on their own.

Just as no one ever gets turned into a democratic by a republican and vice versa on a poli forum.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:48 pm to
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9/11 is fricking crazy though. Like I always say, if Nixon couldn't keep Watergate under wraps how the frick did GWB keep a conspiracy under cover that would have to have thousands of people involved.


Nixon just got unlucky.

If Forrest Gump didn't call in the complaint about men walking around with flash lights it would have never been exposed.
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