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Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:30 pm to Kentucker
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:30 pm to Kentucker
So if we travel across the universe we can view history like a movie? Let's settle this Jesus debate once and for all. Actually, I wanna see Jehovah and Moses layeth the smacketh down on some Egyptian candy asses
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:35 pm to scrooster
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Okay, so since light travels at 186 miles per second
186,282 miles per second. I know it was a typo since you used it correctly below, but just wanted to point it out.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 7:42 am to Kentucker
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That there appears to be more matter than anti-matter lends credence to M-theory which says that the Big Bang, or more accurately the Big Inflation, originated when two Branes brushed up against one another. That also explains the "lumpiness" of the young Universe.
If space-time, matter and energy actually came into existence from nothing at the point of the Big Bang then there should have been a smoothness which would have precluded the formation of anything beyond particles. Gravity would have been expressed the same everywhere so nothing like stars, galaxies and black holes could have formed.
Which was my point about the imbalance between matter and anti-matter ... at least on this plane of existence, in this universe.
Your second paragraph is proof of a supreme being or entity IMHO. Nothing comes from nothing. And although we live on a world where balance is essential, where there must be a yin for every yang and lightness for every darkness ... this universe follows no such rules. It's total chaos.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:29 am to Stacked
Nah bruh. Earth only 6000 years old. That's what Jesus said when he wrote the Bible.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:30 am to scrooster
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Your second paragraph is proof of a supreme being or entity IMHO. Nothing comes from nothing
You see the tragic flaw in Aquinas' argument, right?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:29 am to CrimsonCrusade
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Nah bruh. Earth only 6000 years old. That's what Jesus said when he wrote the Bible.
Lay off the crack pipe ... Jesus neither wrote the Bible nor did he claim that Earth was/is only 6,000 years old. (Would have been 4,000 years old in his lifetime.) Bishop James Ussher - mash this and learn something so that you'll not come-across as quite so dorky the next time this conversation rolls around.
In the meantime, this was a fairly good discussion - until you chimed-in. So I'm hoping that if we ignore your adolescent ignorant arse it will go back to being a fairly good discussion.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:37 am to scrooster
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Nothing comes from nothing.
Hawking and a lot scientists disagree. However, I don't see how that can be possible.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:49 am to FairhopeTider
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Hawking and a lot scientists disagree. However, I don't see how that can be possible.
... unless the astrophysicists and their ilk admit that there is a supreme being/entity out there, it defies all logic and known physics.
Nothing comes from nothing ... unless ... but that's the mind blowing aspect of all of this, and the beauty of it all at the same time.
Science increasingly continues to make the case for God.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 11:35 am to StrykerAg10
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So if we travel across the universe we can view history like a movie? Let's settle this Jesus debate once and for all. Actually, I wanna see Jehovah and Moses layeth the smacketh down on some Egyptian candy asses
You have a vivid imagination. Enjoy.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 11:42 am to Kentucker
Some scientists insist that if we had a telescope powerful enough, we could see the Big Bang.
That blows my mind because I feel like that would be like taking out a pair of binoculars as you drive away from your house and being able to watch yourself get in the car.
That blows my mind because I feel like that would be like taking out a pair of binoculars as you drive away from your house and being able to watch yourself get in the car.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 11:43 am to scrooster
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If space-time, matter and energy actually came into existence from nothing at the point of the Big Bang then there should have been a smoothness which would have precluded the formation of anything beyond particles. Gravity would have been expressed the same everywhere so nothing like stars, galaxies and black holes could have formed.
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Nothing comes from nothing.
Only if we define nothing as that which we have not yet detected.
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And although we live on a world where balance is essential, where there must be a yin for every yang and lightness for every darkness ... this universe follows no such rules.
These are human constructs. The Universe has its own versions of symmetry.
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It's total chaos.
The "goal" of the Universe, as we currently understand it, is ultimate entropy. At the point of the Big Bang there existed ultimate order.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 11:59 am to FairhopeTider
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Nothing comes from nothing.
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Hawking and a lot scientists disagree. However, I don't see how that can be possible.
Actually, they don't. When exploring the unknown, we often discover things for which our spoken language has no adequate words. When the word "nothing" is used in physics, it can indicate a couple of connotations. It can mean infinity or something which we have not yet detected.
The language of math has no such problem. When arriving at infinity (8) calculations stop. A dead end has been reached. It's time to go in another direction.
This happens until nothing (that which is not yet detected) becomes something (that which is described by the math). The effort then begins to observe the new something that had been described by the math.
When the new something is observed, it becomes confirmatory evidence of the theory that postulated it.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:13 pm to FairhopeTider
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Some scientists insist that if we had a telescope powerful enough, we could see the Big Bang.
Seeing and observing are two different things in this case.
From Wikipedia:
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In practice, we can see light only from as far back as the time of photon decoupling in the recombination epoch. That is when particles were first able to emit photons that were not quickly re-absorbed by other particles. Before then, the Universe was filled with a plasma that was opaque to photons.
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Sometimes astrophysicists distinguish between the visible universe, which includes only signals emitted since recombination—and the observable universe, which includes signals since the beginning of the cosmological expansion (the Big Bang in traditional cosmology, the end of the inflationary epoch in modern cosmology).
Current efforts to look back that far include the search for Gravity waves, which should travel at the speed of light.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 12:29 pm
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