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re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 1:10 pm to pvilleguru
Posted on 1/11/17 at 1:10 pm to pvilleguru
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I can't forgive killing civilians.
It's called collateral damage and if it saved us from an invasion of mainland Japan which would have resulted in protracted combat and killed hundreds of thousands of US service men....I got no problems with it.
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 1:11 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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I'll remember him for being a spineless, pretentious, duplicitous, race-baiting charlatan with the coldest hand I've ever had the misfortune to shake.
True story, coldest hands I've ever shook were from the doctor giving me a physical which included a hernia check. I could feel ice through the nitrile gloves he was wearing.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 1:26 pm to TeLeFaWx
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The smart ones always do.
in that case i'm good being dumb most of the time.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 1/11/17 at 1:32 pm to 3nOut
i think he was a terrible public speaker. just read off the teleprompter, and beat up on strawman arguments.
I think Obama's erection flaunting is the thing i will remember most because it sums up his narcissism and creepiness, and demonstrates how the media covered for him by not showing this video. LINK
2nd thing would be his speech in 2008 about how he could not disown Jeramaih Wright.
I think Obama's erection flaunting is the thing i will remember most because it sums up his narcissism and creepiness, and demonstrates how the media covered for him by not showing this video. LINK
2nd thing would be his speech in 2008 about how he could not disown Jeramaih Wright.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 1/11/17 at 1:39 pm to 3nOut
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in that case i'm good being dumb most of the time.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 1:49 pm to Tillman
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i think he was a terrible public speaker.
No, he's a solid public speaker. That's part of the problem--he had the charisma to honey-coat the poison he spewed, and people ate it up. Snake oil salesman of a president.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 1/11/17 at 1:50 pm to Tillman
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i think he was a terrible public speaker.
You know you're severely fricked in the head when you say things like this.
You're in fact incapable of thinking clearly on the matter of politics, you're way too fricked up over it.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 3:13 pm to TeLeFaWx
Posted on 1/11/17 at 3:25 pm to 3nOut
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Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
i actually agree with a lot of the OP. i started out as an Obama hater early on and then softened a bit in my early 30s.
I'm the exact opposite. I started of knowing I'd disagree with a lot of his politics but being very hopeful that he'd use is position to improve race relations and be an inspiration to young black men. I really thought he had a great chance to be a positive influence on a lot of lives.
I grew to despise him when I saw that instead of doing that, he was going all in with the 'blame whitey and frick the police' movement.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 3:49 pm to TeLeFaWx
Just as people will study for years how he publicly spoke, people will also study how he handled race relations so they know to do the exact opposite.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 3:55 pm to Year of the Dragon
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I agree with Trae Crowder. You will be missed President Obama.
I don't like Trae Crowder's politics, but he's hilarious.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 4:21 pm to pvilleguru
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They would have reasons to fight at that point.
But they would still be citizens and more of them would have probably died if a massive invasion had occurred. Both sides would've lost way more.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 4:23 pm to 1BamaRTR
I think Obama will be remembered by the majority as a mediocre or average at best POTUS. Now, obviously, liberals will view him as one of the best ever while conservatives will view him as one of the worst ever.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 4:39 pm to 1BamaRTR
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I think Obama will be remembered by the majority as a mediocre or average at best POTUS. Now, obviously, liberals will view him as one of the best ever while conservatives will view him as one of the worst ever.
Let's say Trump fixes Obamacare, what will that mean for Obama's legacy? Cuz Obama certainly got the ball rolling.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 4:52 pm to TeLeFaWx
Spilling my bowl of cheetos really pissed me off.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:00 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Let's say Trump fixes Obamacare,
Wish people would talk about fixing the various roots to the problem and how to positively change what healthcare is, instead of trying to figure out who and how to pay for the abomination that is health care.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:01 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Wish people would talk about fixing the various roots to the problem and how to positively change what healthcare is, instead of trying to figure out who and how to pay for the abomination that is health care.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-11/drug-stocks-plunge-as-trump-threatens-to-force-price-bidding
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:11 pm to TeLeFaWx
That's cool. I mean prices are obviously a huge part of why health care is a mess, but I'm going for things beyond that when I'm talking about change and approaches to fixing it.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:14 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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That's cool. I mean prices are obviously a huge part of why health care is a mess, but I'm going for things beyond that when I'm talking about change and approaches to fixing it.
I agree, but there are so many of what I think of as "entrenched interests" and this is the first sign I am seeing of that system being attacked.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:27 pm to pvilleguru
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Obamacare didn't work as planned, but it did help people.
It helped a very small minority of people while simultaneously fricking the rest of us up the arse.
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but the idea behind the ACA is something I strongly believe in.
Sure, everyone loves socialism until they have to pay the bill
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