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Obama's AFFH - a glaring example of why Leftists can't be put in charge.

Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:55 pm
Care to explain to me how this isn't too much govt?

The Federal Government wants to enforce who can live in which neighborhoods. At this point a person has to be considered clinically insane to be a part of the American Left.

Leftists are Marxists, and Marxists hate freedom.
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:56 pm to
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Care to explain to me how this isn't too much govt?

The Federal Government wants to enforce who can live in which neighborhoods.


Explain...or is there a link.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:02 pm to
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Explain...or is there a link.
It's true; been going around the news for a few weeks.
Posted by Person of interest
The Hill
Member since Jan 2014
1786 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:06 pm to
So does it only apply to communities that want or receive HUD money?
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:08 pm to
Is this really a thing for anybody who doesn't live in section 8?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55439 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:08 pm to
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So does it only apply to communities that want or receive HUD money?


That's my understanding. Once you take their money, they have you by the balls.
Posted by Person of interest
The Hill
Member since Jan 2014
1786 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:10 pm to
That's the way I read it too. Government money always has strings.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:20 pm to
This is some soviet-level shite. I hate this president.

LINK

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The Obama administration's changes aim to provide cities with specific guidance and reams of data on integration and segregation patterns, racially and ethnically concentrated areas of poverty and areas of high housing need.

Communities will be required to set goals based on the data for smarter investments in housing, schools and transportation that will be closely monitored, Castro said.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:20 pm to
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Is this really a thing for anybody who doesn't live in section 8?


It will be. That's the plan.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:22 pm to
Communities are built by businesses. This shite won't go anywhere.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:27 pm to
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Communities are built by businesses. This shite won't go anywhere.


Not when you have Marxists in charge. Your community, neighborhood and school will be "monitored closely" to ensure that it is appropriately integrated racially, ethnically and socioeconomically.

I'm starting to believe we actually need a Trump in office to unravel the insane policies of this president.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55439 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:30 pm to
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Communities are built by businesses. This shite won't go anywhere.



The real drivers of wealth and community matter little when one must follow government orders on pain of imprisonment.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98921 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:37 pm to
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Your community, neighborhood and school will be "monitored closely" to ensure that it is appropriately integrated racially, ethnically and socioeconomically.


FYI, this has been happening in schools here in Louisville since the 70s.

They also started a "scattered housing" push in the city under GWB in order to "spread out" Section 8 housing.

This isn't anything new unfortunately.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:41 pm to
I don't know, that article makes it sound like he's just executing some goals and laws of legislation passed in 1968.

quote:

Besides banning outright discrimination, the 1968 law required cities that receive federal housing money to promote equal opportunity and access to housing regardless of race, origin, religion, sex or disability. But little was done at the time or in the years since to explain precisely what the law's requirement to "affirmatively further" such goals meant or how to achieve that.


But the article really isn't all that informative.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:43 pm to
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They also started a "scattered housing" push in the city under GWB in order to "spread out" Section 8 housing.




Because residents of project A hate residents of project B and clique up and boom gang violence. Spreading out section 8 housing is a decent idea to try and curb some of that violence, it won't work but it was a good idea.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13889 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:43 pm to
HUD targeted struggling apartment complexes in my city. Offered all kinds of cash to the management companies in order to move "low income" families into these apartments in an affluent area. Crime has gone through the roof in response and the rent has dropped accordingly for surrounding properties, which has invited even more dirt bags in. What used to be a quiet suburban city has turned into a festering shite hole.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98921 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:45 pm to
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Because residents of project A hate residents of project B and clique up and boom gang violence. Spreading out section 8 housing is a decent idea to try and curb some of that violence, it won't work but it was a good idea.


All it did here was spread out crime rates.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:47 pm to
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All it did here was spread out crime rates.




Hence the last sentence in my previous post
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

HUD targeted struggling apartment complexes in my city. Offered all kinds of cash to the management companies in order to move "low income" families into these apartments in an affluent area. Crime has gone through the roof in response and the rent has dropped accordingly for surrounding properties, which has invited even more dirt bags in. What used to be a quiet suburban city has turned into a festering shite hole.





Section 8 at it's finest
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

that article makes it sound like he's just executing some goals and laws of legislation passed in 1968


The Fair Housing Act outlawed overt discrimination.

This extension of power is about enforcing equal outcomes.

There's a difference. This is over-reach. Every neighborhood, city, street is now under scrutiny until it achieves the government mandated diversity ratio.

This type of government attempt at enforcement of equal outcomes ruined big city public schools. It will have a similar impact on the cities themselves. Its a bigger deal than I think some of you realize.
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