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Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:55 am to Litigator
Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:55 am to Litigator
I grew up in Arkansas so I'm not sure if families drive down to the coast and spend the day at the beach or not. I know guys who have camps along the coast that would go to the beaches growing up due to the convenience.
However, if you don't own a place I think most just drive to Gulf Shores/Destin
However, if you don't own a place I think most just drive to Gulf Shores/Destin
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:58 am to GeorgeReymond
It's Atlanta's main source for water. Bama uses it to cool it's nuclear power plant and Florida just bitches about it.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:07 am to GeorgeReymond
That's what we do anywhere from Fort Morgan to Panama City. But frankly I've never looked into the LA coast that much. The MS beaches are ok but if I was going for a beach vacation I'd go further east. Galveston is ok and I actually like South Padre Island but it is a long haul for us.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:19 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Chatahooochee River Discharge/Day 10,090 cfs
That's because metro Atlanta has pretty much killed this river.
FIFY
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:26 am to WheelRoute
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:00 pm to Govt Tide
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Chatahooochee River Discharge/Day 10,090 cfs
That's because metro Atlanta has pretty much killed this river.
FIFY
How has metro ATL killed this river?
Metro ATL draws it's water from three different river basins, only 1 of which is the Hooch.
And I'll challenge the premise that the river has even been "killed". In what way is it dead?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:13 pm to CroakaBait
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Drive-thru daquiri shops
So... people in Louisiana like girly drinks? Got it.
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you lose Giawgia's.
Is that how swamp gumps pronounce Georgia? I mean, I can never understand what Louisianan's are saying to begin with, but frick...
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:10 pm to CatFan81
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:55 pm to GoldenDawg
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Thank you for the advice. I have now taken a look at a map. And I find that your argument, at best, only works for having no decent beaches around New Orleans. What about the rest of your frickin' state?
The map also tells me that every other coastal state with a decent size river running through it (Rio Grande, Chattahoochie, etc., manages to find a way to have outstanding beaches.
Then there's you.
I'm assuming this is a troll. It has to be.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:45 pm to deeprig9
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How has metro ATL killed this river?
Metro ATL draws it's water from three different river basins, only 1 of which is the Hooch.
And I'll challenge the premise that the river has even been "killed". In what way is it dead?
The river hasn't been killed. It just a little disingenous for someone from the greater Atlanta region to try to give equal blame for the AL, GA, and FL water wars to AL and FL when Atlanta is the main reason for that war. Atlanta is a great influential city and the economic capital of the Southeast but it's also an arrogant, unreasonable bully when it comes to sharing resources and getting what it wants. Atanta has done such a piss poor job of managing its runaway sprawl and population growth that it has the nerve to think it can take all the water it wants without a thought for what people downstream think. Heck, you guys actually had the nerve to try to move the Tennessee/Georgia border north so you could steal water from Tennessee.
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:53 pm to Govt Tide
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The river hasn't been killed. It just a little disingenous for someone from the greater Atlanta region to try to give equal blame for the AL, GA, and FL water wars to AL and FL when Atlanta is the main reason for that war. Atlanta is a great influential city and the economic capital of the Southeast but it's also an arrogant, unreasonable bully when it comes to sharing resources and getting what it wants. Atanta has done such a piss poor job of managing its runaway sprawl and population growth that it has the nerve to think it can take all the water it wants without a thought for what people downstream think. Heck, you guys actually had the nerve to try to move the Tennessee/Georgia border north so you could steal water from Tennessee.
Well, in the end, we are more important. We're like the US and yall are like the rest of the world. And I, for one, am cool with it.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:42 pm to Jefferson Davis
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I'm assuming this is a troll. It has to be.
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought that whole bizarre whine about there being no beaches in Louisiana because the Mississippi empties out by New Orleans was a troll.
You mean .... it wasn't?
Well, hey, good for you!
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:42 pm to GoldenDawg
GA sux,
full of melvin's, spinsters, and choke artists.
full of melvin's, spinsters, and choke artists.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:49 pm to GoldenDawg
So you do indeed disagree with the fact that the Mississippi River is a major reason why the vast majority of Louisiana's coastline is without beaches?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:19 pm to Jefferson Davis
Double post
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:20 pm to soleckma
For this argument's sake, let's not forget education. I'm not bias towards either state but Georgia clearly has the better schooling system. George has some of the best schools in the south while the rest of the country laughs at Louisiana's education system.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:49 pm to Govt Tide
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The river hasn't been killed. It just a little disingenous for someone from the greater Atlanta region to try to give equal blame for the AL, GA, and FL water wars to AL and FL when Atlanta is the main reason for that war. Atlanta is a great influential city and the economic capital of the Southeast but it's also an arrogant, unreasonable bully when it comes to sharing resources and getting what it wants. Atanta has done such a piss poor job of managing its runaway sprawl and population growth that it has the nerve to think it can take all the water it wants without a thought for what people downstream think. Heck, you guys actually had the nerve to try to move the Tennessee/Georgia border north so you could steal water from Tennessee.
So what you are saying is that the Hooch isn't dead, but if it was dead, there would be a geopolitical reason that ATL was at fault, but because the Hooch isn't dead, then there's no reason for the argument?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:33 pm to Jefferson Davis
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So you do indeed disagree with the fact that the Mississippi River is a major reason why the vast majority of Louisiana's coastline is without beaches?
Louisiana has 397 miles of general coastline. As a comparison, Florida has 770 miles of general coastline along the Gulf.
So please wax eloquent as to why the Mississippi River emptying around New Orleans has screwed over your state's almost 400 MILES OF COASTLINE.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:51 pm to GoldenDawg
Well, for starters, the levee system has prevented the river from following natural course and depositing new sediment to south Louisiana. Hence, Louisiana loses a football field of coast every 30 minutes.
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:57 pm to GoldenDawg
Wow, you really are serious. I honestly don't even know where to begin because this is something I was taught in elementary school.
For one, the Mississippi is the central drainage system of the North American continent. Louisiana's coastline is made up of silt deposited by the river at its various delta points, which have shifted eastward throughout history. The river's current delta was formed only ~1,200 years ago.
The silt deposited by the river and various rises in sea level over the past thousands of years has left the marshes and swamps that make up our coast and much of south LA as a whole.
Further west, he Atchafalaya River deposits the same type of silt and runoff on a smaller scale. 5,000+ years ago this area served as the Mississippi's delta. Once both rivers completely empty into the gulf, sediment is carried westward by currents, depositing along the coast and carrying as far as Galveston, which is why the beaches there are brown. If the currents were to take the sediment in the opposite direction, Gulf Coast beaches as we know them would cease to exist.
One has to truly grasp the discharge volume of the Mississippi River to understand it's impact on the Louisiana coast. It impacts the entire coastline, not just the area around its mouth.
For one, the Mississippi is the central drainage system of the North American continent. Louisiana's coastline is made up of silt deposited by the river at its various delta points, which have shifted eastward throughout history. The river's current delta was formed only ~1,200 years ago.
The silt deposited by the river and various rises in sea level over the past thousands of years has left the marshes and swamps that make up our coast and much of south LA as a whole.
Further west, he Atchafalaya River deposits the same type of silt and runoff on a smaller scale. 5,000+ years ago this area served as the Mississippi's delta. Once both rivers completely empty into the gulf, sediment is carried westward by currents, depositing along the coast and carrying as far as Galveston, which is why the beaches there are brown. If the currents were to take the sediment in the opposite direction, Gulf Coast beaches as we know them would cease to exist.
One has to truly grasp the discharge volume of the Mississippi River to understand it's impact on the Louisiana coast. It impacts the entire coastline, not just the area around its mouth.
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