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John Oliver buy $15 mil worth of medical debt for $60k, then forgives it

Posted on 6/6/16 at 10:20 am
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 10:20 am
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 10:28 am to
He has done a nice job of bringing much needed attention to the world of predatory lending.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 10:54 am to
queue the "don't go into debt that you can't pay back" posts
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 11:20 am to
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He has done a nice job of bringing much needed attention to the world of predatory lending.
Yeah, but he's about two World Wars too late.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:21 pm to
Actually, the medical debt had already been paid off.

The hospitals passed it onto other patients and probably got some money from the govt, through your taxes. Utilities, salaries, equipment, all of that stuff was eventually paid for, just not by the people who used the services.

Oliver simply bought whatever right was left to collect on that debt. Considering the price he paid for the debt, the odds that it would ever have been collected was very, very low.



Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:48 pm to
That is complete bullshite. I have had clients get harrassed over medical debt many many years afterward. The hospital do not always write debt off they just sell it
Posted by 3nOut
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:05 pm to
I understand and applaud his sentiment but those folks are going to write a fat check to Uncle Sam off of debt forgiveness.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 9:19 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:13 pm to
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queue the "don't go into debt that you can't pay back" posts


What would be wrong with the truth of don't borrow money you can't pay back?
It worked for many people for many years, including myself.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:49 pm to
I've attempted to buy my student loan debt, but since the gov't guaranteed it there is no market for federal student loan debt just a deep dark hole for students.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 11:21 pm to
Has there been a single issue ever where this man did not advocate for more government control and regulation?

Regarding predatory lending, please read this:

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The New York Times is again on the warpath against what it calls “predatory lending.”

Just what is predatory lending? It is lending that charges a higher interest rate than people like those at the New York Times approve of. According to such thinking — or lack of thinking — the answer is to have the government set an interest rate ceiling at a level that will be acceptable to third parties like the New York Times.

Low-income people often get short-terms loans when they run out of money to meet some exigency of the moment. The interest rates charged on such unsecured loans to people with low credit scores are usually higher than on loans to people whose higher incomes and better credit histories make them less of a risk.

Crusaders against such loans often make the interest rate charged seem even higher by quoting these interest rates in annual terms, even when the loan is actually repayable in a matter of weeks. It is like saying that a $100 a night hotel room costs $36,500 a year, when virtually nobody rents a hotel room for a year.

Because those who make unsecured short-term loans are usually poor and often ill-educated, the political left can cast the high interest rates as unconscionably taking advantage of vulnerable people.

Editorial demagoguery against “predatory” lending might well be called predatory journalism — taking advantage of other people’s ignorance of economics to score ideological points, and promote still more expansion of government powers that limit the options of poor people especially, who have few options already.


Studies show that these "predators" have NO HIGHER RATE OF RETURN ON LOANS than banks in higher income areas. Why? Because the risk is so much higher.

Putting a fricking price ceiling on interest rates has been shown to lead to a massive decrease in lending institutions in low income areas. That doesn't sound very pro-poor to me.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:05 am to
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The hospital do not always write debt off they just sell it


Yes, they sell it. Then they write off the difference of what is owed and what it was sold for.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:12 am to
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That is complete bullshite. I have had clients get harrassed over medical debt many many years afterward. The hospital do not always write debt off they just sell it


Nothing you said counters what he said.

The hospital has to sell it at a much lower price then what they're owed due to the probability of the buyer not being able to collect. So that difference between what they were owed and what they sold it for gets written off.

The services never got completely paid to the hospital like he said though. The hospital still sees a net loss from the whole transaction. It's just less of a loss then what they would've seen had they done nothing.


What's interesting is this forgiveness of debt is actually tax-free to the people who had the debt when usually this would've produced taxable income to them.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 10:17 am
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