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re: I'm in real need of some advice please
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:17 pm to cas4t
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:17 pm to cas4t
Simple...if you're truly good at sales, you won't have any problems selling yourself into a nice sales job in Nashville. Start with software companies.
Suggestion:
Jack Henry & Associates
111 10th Ave
Nashville, TN
615.291.5635
Fortune 500 banking software company. Excellent benefits. Very competitive sales pay. Let me put it this way...if you're a good worker and you get hired at Jack Henry, you'll never leave unless you land something awesome like a medical equipment sales position.
Suggestion:
Jack Henry & Associates
111 10th Ave
Nashville, TN
615.291.5635
Fortune 500 banking software company. Excellent benefits. Very competitive sales pay. Let me put it this way...if you're a good worker and you get hired at Jack Henry, you'll never leave unless you land something awesome like a medical equipment sales position.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:18 pm to InThroughTheOutDore
Good point
I'm gonna burn bridges no matter when I leave
But in February I can at least say I waited until the agreed upon time frame
I'm gonna burn bridges no matter when I leave
But in February I can at least say I waited until the agreed upon time frame
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:22 pm to mizzoukills
I have an opportunity for medical sales too. But the territory doesn't have enough potential. It's very small.
I've been in sales for 2.5 years and have been lucky to have done well enough to stay in the industry. This job has really opened up some doors too.
How do you know Jack Henry? I've heard of them before and can't think of where.
Thanks for the heads up
I've been in sales for 2.5 years and have been lucky to have done well enough to stay in the industry. This job has really opened up some doors too.
How do you know Jack Henry? I've heard of them before and can't think of where.
Thanks for the heads up
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:28 pm to cas4t
If they're really on your side and it's just a matter of people not moving when they thought they would I'd try to parlay that into getting some control over where you'd go when the time comes and stick it out for a bit.
You've proven you're willing to do what it takes to move up in the company including moving away from home and your SO for an opportunity to advance. If that's not valued by the company, I'd bail. You know if that's the case, and the waiting until February won't make a difference. If they're really putting you on a back burner because they don't value the sacrifice the bridge being burned probably doesn't mean much.
That being said, I wouldn't get too caught up on the Nashville thing. There's a lot of fine places that are just as nice as Nashville, and while they may be outside of your comfort zone, there's a lot of great places.
ETA: I'm assuming your job pays well enough that the move away from Nashville and your chick was worth it and that moving to a nice spot that isn't in the great white north would get her to wherever you are. If that's not the case and she's not leaving BNA for anything, go to Nashville and I refer to paragraph 2.
You've proven you're willing to do what it takes to move up in the company including moving away from home and your SO for an opportunity to advance. If that's not valued by the company, I'd bail. You know if that's the case, and the waiting until February won't make a difference. If they're really putting you on a back burner because they don't value the sacrifice the bridge being burned probably doesn't mean much.
That being said, I wouldn't get too caught up on the Nashville thing. There's a lot of fine places that are just as nice as Nashville, and while they may be outside of your comfort zone, there's a lot of great places.
ETA: I'm assuming your job pays well enough that the move away from Nashville and your chick was worth it and that moving to a nice spot that isn't in the great white north would get her to wherever you are. If that's not the case and she's not leaving BNA for anything, go to Nashville and I refer to paragraph 2.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:47 pm to cas4t
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How do you know Jack Henry? I've heard of them before and can't think of where.
Let's just say I'm a big supporter of Jack Henry. Truly great company. Offices across the entire country from coast to coast as well as international. If you got a job at Jack Henry, you could relocate to many very nice locations.
I'd think about it. Their sales team's make great money.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:59 pm to Mizzeaux
The SO is more than willing to move. She just doesn't want me to wait it out up here just for them to offer me somewhere I don't want to be. Most of the locations I'd expect to be offered would likely be more rural areas. Neither of us want that.
But if they were to offer a Charlotte or Atlanta or something, I'd go and she would too.
Although this new potential job of hers is new to the whole situation. It's one of those jobs that she's built her way up to finally having the experience to be a legitimate candidate.
Nashville would be the easiest transition for right now, but I'm not "Nashville or nothing".
The problem is that there is no way to tell what will come open. And I could wait another 6 months for them to still be pushing me to take something in rural Alabama or Louisiana.
Basically my region consists of all the SEC states except Florida and Georgia. And add North Carolina.
I could probably leverage my way into them opening up other states. But regional managers don't like giving up guys to other regions.
But if they were to offer a Charlotte or Atlanta or something, I'd go and she would too.
Although this new potential job of hers is new to the whole situation. It's one of those jobs that she's built her way up to finally having the experience to be a legitimate candidate.
Nashville would be the easiest transition for right now, but I'm not "Nashville or nothing".
The problem is that there is no way to tell what will come open. And I could wait another 6 months for them to still be pushing me to take something in rural Alabama or Louisiana.
Basically my region consists of all the SEC states except Florida and Georgia. And add North Carolina.
I could probably leverage my way into them opening up other states. But regional managers don't like giving up guys to other regions.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 6:00 pm to mizzoukills
I'll look into that killz
I'm checking them out online as we speak
I'm checking them out online as we speak
Posted on 11/16/13 at 6:05 pm to cas4t
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Yea I do
I'm gonna burn some bridges though if I leave
It's stressful
Well I have burned bridges and done things I never would thought I'd do. Not saying that's what you should do but the mistakes I made and what I did with them made me who I am today and I like who I am. That being said if you made a commitment honor your commitment if it's not going to wreck your rrelationship.Good luck man I know how tough this can be.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:24 pm to cas4t
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Most of the locations I'd expect to be offered would likely be more rural areas. Neither of us want that. But if they were to offer a Charlotte or Atlanta or something, I'd go and she would too.
If you haven't told them this, then you should. Hell, you're a salesman, right? Sell them. If you can't negotiate this, then they should at least respect the attempt and understand why you left. Which is something quite different from burning a bridge.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:35 pm to InThroughTheOutDore
I've told them numerous times. But nothing has happened yet. I think I'll just wait it out until February and keep communicating with them what I want.
Then, as you said, if they can't come through, they have no reason to be upset with me.
Then, as you said, if they can't come through, they have no reason to be upset with me.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:40 pm to InThroughTheOutDore
Where do you and SO want to live? Top 3
How old are you? College? Which one?
Kids?
Marriage gonna happen?
Where are you from?
Do you want to stay in this type sales or are you open?
How old are you? College? Which one?
Kids?
Marriage gonna happen?
Where are you from?
Do you want to stay in this type sales or are you open?
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:29 pm to Agforlife
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That being said if you made a commitment honor your commitment if it's not going to wreck your rrelationship.
Solid advice right there
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:38 pm to Neuromancer
Nashville or any other metro area
25 and both graduated in May 2011 from Middle Tennessee State
Marriage within a couple years. For sure happening
From New Orleans but lived in Nashville most of my life. She's from Knoxville.
I'm open to other sales. I could do medical device, pharma, or software too. And prob some others
25 and both graduated in May 2011 from Middle Tennessee State
Marriage within a couple years. For sure happening
From New Orleans but lived in Nashville most of my life. She's from Knoxville.
I'm open to other sales. I could do medical device, pharma, or software too. And prob some others
Posted on 11/16/13 at 9:07 pm to cas4t
Any metro area? That obviously opens your chances at the best job, but where would yall prefer:
Tenn #1 Im guessing
Louisiana
Texas maybe next?
Or yall really don't care?
Reason I ask is this becomes important the older you get. Certain jobs screw people around, make promises etc.
My first thing to suggest is focus a general area yall want to be. Like I said - very general. Could be a few cities or a few states. BIg City/Dallas / Houston
Small town? either?
Any desire to go to LA or New York kind of thing?
Im getting to a point. Just trying to find first what you and your family to be want. That comes first.
Any New Orleans/BR interest?
Tenn #1 Im guessing
Louisiana
Texas maybe next?
Or yall really don't care?
Reason I ask is this becomes important the older you get. Certain jobs screw people around, make promises etc.
My first thing to suggest is focus a general area yall want to be. Like I said - very general. Could be a few cities or a few states. BIg City/Dallas / Houston
Small town? either?
Any desire to go to LA or New York kind of thing?
Im getting to a point. Just trying to find first what you and your family to be want. That comes first.
Any New Orleans/BR interest?
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 9:28 pm to cas4t
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I'm gonna burn some bridges though if I leave
If those bridges are in Minnesota, do you really care?
If your employer is worth a damn, they'll realize that you came there expecting something (a move back to Nashville in a year) and that was changed on you. They can't give you any guarantees about getting back there. You can't put your life, and your relationship (you're engaged, correct?) on hold indefinitely for something that may or may not ever happen.
If you get an offer, and it's a good one, talk to your employer. Explain your situation, and let them know why you are looking. IF they truly value you, they'll figure out a way to work with you and get you back to Nashville. If not...your decision is already made.
And it's business - not personal. Keep that in mind. They aren't showing loyalty and consideration to you by stringing you along. In my mind that frees you up to do what is best for you and your fiance.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 9:37 pm to semotruman
Good point. That is one of the reasons I was asking about location.
If yall have no desire for Minn. - Make up your mind now you are leaving - and then start planning.
You are so young you have so much ahead of you - good and bad. If you do not want to be in Minnesota leave. Screw the bridges.
One thing I learned at your age is that employers will use this to scare you. I made some bad mistakes that set me back a few years because of this. Do not let that happen.
Be respectful - but if you do not like it - leave. Or start applying and interviewing while they are paying you.
If Minn. is an option this is different.
But think down the road - where do I want to be? I need to be making my connections there - even if the job isnt ideal. The connections will mature as you get older, and if your reputation is as a hard worker - no matter what - the big breaks come.
That is not to say if you land a phat job in NYC don't go. Just a little info on the getting older path.
If yall have no desire for Minn. - Make up your mind now you are leaving - and then start planning.
You are so young you have so much ahead of you - good and bad. If you do not want to be in Minnesota leave. Screw the bridges.
One thing I learned at your age is that employers will use this to scare you. I made some bad mistakes that set me back a few years because of this. Do not let that happen.
Be respectful - but if you do not like it - leave. Or start applying and interviewing while they are paying you.
If Minn. is an option this is different.
But think down the road - where do I want to be? I need to be making my connections there - even if the job isnt ideal. The connections will mature as you get older, and if your reputation is as a hard worker - no matter what - the big breaks come.
That is not to say if you land a phat job in NYC don't go. Just a little info on the getting older path.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 9:39 pm to Neuromancer
I think we're both open to any metro area. We'd live in Chicago, New York, New Orleans, Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, etc..
We just want to be somewhere that we can enjoy being young with good income.
Small towns are not in the picture
We just want to be somewhere that we can enjoy being young with good income.
Small towns are not in the picture
Posted on 11/16/13 at 9:42 pm to semotruman
Semo you are spot on with how my line of thinking has shifted. I just need to make some moves, let them know I'm looking for jobs, and stick to my guns.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 9:53 pm to cas4t
Ditto to what semotruman said. Sound advice it is.
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