re: How Mjnorities can gain their "privilege"

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Who's the majority in America, where everyone on this site either lives or grew up in?

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Americans?

Or do they not have privilege over whites from other countries who are first generation migrants?

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TbirdSpur2010

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I'm not going to read this whole thread, nor do I really want to, but I do have one question.

I agree with a majority having privilege, that's the most basic mathematical concept you can have. Anybody that disagrees with that should explain how a majority of the vote will win a fricking vote.

My question is do you believe there has been a somewhat of a demonizing stance on whites in the media (deserved or undeserved is besides the point)?

I think there has and not because of the deserved/undeserved aspect of it, but the mainstream media has evolved over time into the largest trolling operation on earth. Anybody that believes people like MSNBC's Toure or Bill O'Reilly actually believe what they're saying should just watch this interview, I mean frick the dude wrote a book called "Killing Jesus" and made millions on it. They focus on what will create the most emotional reactions out of all parties (hence the existence of this thread). I don't hate it at all, in fact I think the inflammation of emotions causes conversation and possibly resolution. I grew up in a majority black school and I have some pretty strong feelings on race, and lot of indifference too but I don't want to tangent the question with those.

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Bottom line: racial privilege exists and favors the majority as a matter of course.

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Have you seen the parity in economical facets? The majority of whites don't enjoy the majority of the money -- a small percentage of whites do with an even smaller minority percentage.

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In America whites are the majority, hence the term white privilege. It is not universal, but it is present

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It is present at the same rate as any other race who holds a majority at the micro level.

It does not exist at the macro level which is what I've been arguing all along.

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Nor does acknowledging white privilege mean that any and all white struggles or success stories are bunk.

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Then why call it white if it doesn't apply to all white people?

Shall we say that there's a black crime problem since they are they make up a criminal population at a higher rate than anyone else?

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I have no doubt that there are things that happened in my life that were easier for me because I'm white in a country that is by majority white.

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There's no denying this -- if you're in a majority white area and of the same economic cloth.

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On the flipside, I know there are opportunities where I've been passed over because I'm white and there was a larger need for diversity (whether it be for a scholarship, a job, etc). So I do think the "privilege" at times can be a lot more about perception than anything.

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Which happens way, way more than people think.

It helps to be white in certain circumstances -- but it can also be a huge detriment in others, including areas where a white is not a majority.

This isn't directed at you so I'll put it in bold:

No one has responded to the macro vs. micro in white privilege. It is obviously only exclusive to areas that are dominated by whites, and not where whites are not present. Does white privilege exist even in cities where another race or culture is the majority?

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Then we have no argument. This is All that is meant when most refer to white privilege.

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Serious question...if there is privilege by being a part of the majority then why don't the black people in the Delta have "privilege"?

The delta is around 75% black, yet just about all of them here live in the most impoverished conditions in the nations. Seriously some Iive in houses that are so rundown most states in the US would probably condemn the property.

The delta has a higher income inequality between black and white people than anywhere in the world. I remember reading an article not long ago about how income inequality here is higher than even places like Iraq where oil barons control everything.

iF being part of the majority where your race is control (most mayors, aldermen, state congressman are black from this area) you would think they would have largely improved their schools, infrastructure, and made business friendly policies to allow people to work their way out of poverty.

I don't really have a theory as to why it is the way it is, it's just an observation that seems to go against the "majority theory of privilege".

Having been to the Delta, there certainly isn't a bigger sign of what economic privilege is in this country than what I saw there. But I think that has a lot more to do with a lot of the money on the "white side" has deep roots and a lot more stability.

And I'm going to guess, especially with the economic situation in Mississippi, a lot of your white youth that grew up in the Delta moved away for employment sake if they weren't staying in the farm business. That's just a guess though.

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But I think that has a lot more to do with a lot of the money on the "white side" has deep roots and a lot more stability.

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THIS is where the argument loses steam.

The MAJORITY of whites don't hold the MAJORITY of the money.

1% of the United States owns a whole hell of a lot more than the rest of us -- and whites as a whole are not getting in on that action.

The parity between rich and poor is too massive to ascribe to all whites or even a majority of whites and the correlation between the two are being fallaciously conflated in this conversation.

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The MAJORITY of whites don't hold the MAJORITY of the money.

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I was speaking about the Delta, where they absolutely do.

Yea I suppose it's probably a bad example because the delta is so unique compared to everywhere else. Obviously white people had an advantage because most farm families here have owned the land since the 1800s so they're sitting on piles of old money.

I know a few people who have left to live somewhere else, but the majority of people I graduated with have come back. Some are starting up businesses, or going into medical fields, or taking over the farm. People here have deep roots..few ever leave for good.

What's really blown my mind is the amount of rich white liberals from NY and California that show up every year...more and more are moving here most are in Teach for America. But they love it here and I know some who decided to stay for good. Kind of blows my mind how you could leave San Francisco to live in Belzoni by choice

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I wasn't glossing over anything. I was answering delta's question specifically about the Delta.

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As far as economics goes, sure there's privilege that comes with money.

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But I think that has a lot more to do with a lot of the money on the "white side" has deep roots and a lot more stability.

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I'm connecting your comments to show the emphasis on economics, and making a perfectly lucid argument regarding who actually has the money in America.

Do you disagree with the statement "The majority of whites don't hold the majority of the money"?