re: How do you feel about this new feminist ad?

Real feminism is dead. Women have equal rights.

Ut oh. Someone is dangling something bright and shiny.

Real feminism isn't dead friend.

Aaaaand, you have an upvote.

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Empowering by definition is "make (someone) stronger and more confident, especially in controlling their life and claiming their rights.".

Nothing about the OP's link does any of that. If anything it does quite the opposite.

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But the people who made the video would say it does. That's the problem.

If feminism is a cultural battle or sociological battle, all the screeching shitlord crap is fair game.

If it's a legal battle, the feminists have won.

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hmmm

One of the dumbest fricking things that I hate about modern day feminist counts is the "Teach boys not to rape" slogan. Yeah women should be able to wear and walk wherever the hell they want without fear of being attacked. But guess what? We don't live in a fantasy land. Women need to be aware of their surroundings just as much as men need to be aware of what "no means no" means.

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I wasn't arguing, just clarifying my "real feminism is dead" comment.

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I gotcha. And we'll agree to disagree. I think it's still out there even if it's in the minority if that makes sense. Unfortunately people are stupid.

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Domestic violence is very tricky for the radical feminists today, because they want extra protection which sort of undermines a lot of their ideals. If Janay Rice is a free, strong, empowered female then she can leave at any time. If you say she's caught in some kind of twisted psychological submission but you don't apply that standard to male abuse victims, it implies women are weaker-minded.

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I can agree with that. I will say that she probably does have psychological issues that typically come with people who have been abused. But if we're going to address her psychological issues then I think it's a disservice to not address the psychological issues that allowed Ray Rice to think it's ok to do that. And it was pretty obvious as a whole that their relationship is dysfunctional on both ends and she's not exactly above putting her hands on him either. As I've said before, she wasn't above blame in that situation especially the way she had no problem trying to smooth it all over afterward. There's just a whole going on there that needs to be addressed. And the NFL dicking around about the issue didn't help matters either.

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I think the problem is that men and women are very different. Everyone knows that. It's obvious and it's science. And that pisses them off. I really don't know. They're crazy.

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Men and women are very different. But there's some basic tenants as human beings I think can apply to both, such as respect for your fellow man and women. And addressing that would go a long way to not just empowering women but to empowering men as well (which despite your bra burning femininazi, is ok to do).

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The "rape on campus" thing is undermining them too. They want to de-empower women. The double standard is incredible.

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Here's my issue with that (it's all tl:dr so you might want to stop here if you don't :lol).

Working with middle school boys, I think there's a very large issue regarding how you should treat a woman (and honestly people in general) particularly in that situation. And it's not entirely their fault. I know a lot of the kids I work with have either been raped themselves or have witnessed domestic violence in the home that really damages their moral compass when it comes to treating women with respect. And it's scary for me not as much for other women but for these young guys coming up that aren't getting education at school (because God forbid we teach a little sex ed) or at home (because their home life is a shitshow) about how to handle themselves in those situations. You'd be surprised at what some kids in general think is "ok" because that's what they've been raised up around. And it's an issue we're not addressing nearly early enough to try to prevent some of the issues you're seeing pop up in college.

That all said, it's a multipronged issue and a very small fraction is being addressed. There is also a large issue among young girls that I'm seeing where they don't know how to respect a man (or anyone else for that matter). And they've seen women around them falsely accuse men of rape or claim that they're pregnant by some guy in order to try to "keep him" that does nothing but cry wolf. And see that there's virtually no punishment for those false accusations.

Then you have young men who haven't really been taught to keep their dick in their pants when they're dealing with crazy "I want to frick you", then two hours later "No I don't", then an hour later "Well I changed my mind". They haven't been taught the red flags of when they just need to cut their loses and GTFO. There needs to be a real frank conversation about that at this point before they even get to college.

Basically there's conversations that need to be had with some of these kids that is not happening in their home because there's little to no accountability for how people are raising their kids.