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re: Guy who shot McKnight released
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:49 pm to CrimsonShadow
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:49 pm to CrimsonShadow
Y'all ever hear of self defense?
"Witness" testimony ain't exactly been very accurate as of late...
"Witness" testimony ain't exactly been very accurate as of late...
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:18 pm to reboil
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“I told you don’t f--k with me”
Self Defense?
Eta: ^ what he said!
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:53 pm to CrimsonShadow
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Sheriff: Gasser fired three rounds from driver's seat of his car, through open passenger window at McKnight, standing at window
Hard to claim self defense if that's the case.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:54 pm to Hogssmellgood
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Even if the witness account isn't true, McKnight was unarmed and was still shot and killed. There shouldn't need to be any more facts.
In the vast majority of US states, there is absolutely no requirement for an attacker to be armed before deadly force in self defense is justified.
If a person has a reasonable fear for their life, deadly force is justified.
That may not apply here, it it makes your statement totally and completely false.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:55 pm to Weagle25
Yeah, that really isn't going to fly.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 5:18 pm to Weagle25
I think this is a case of a guy that carried a gun hoping one day he'd be able to use it. He could have easily fled from McKnight in his car, called the cops, and pressed charges.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 8:51 pm to AUbagman
Man this was a 180. I thought the guy was guilty but everything points to Mcknight getting out of his car. I'm just speculating but I'm pretty sure Joe was probably threatening to cause physical harm. Also the first shot grazed index finger and entered pointer finger and went to his palm. Seems like Joe might have tried to grab the gun.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 9:22 pm to Weagle25
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Sheriff: Gasser fired three rounds from driver's seat of his car, through open passenger window at McKnight, standing at window
Hard to claim self defense if that's the case.
"Deceased verbally threatened to enter my vehicle and harm me, made a motion to attempt to open my door and then climb into the window."
It's not as hard as you think.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 9:45 pm to LouisvilleKat
Because witnesses lie.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:15 pm to CrimsonShadow
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But IF McKnight came at me in a threatening way, I would have shot him too. He is a big, strong guy. I would have been scared out of my mind.
yeah, and unless you had evidence that he was beating the shite out of you, you should be in jail for murder. Doesn't matter how "scared" someone is, unless you or your property(with you inside) is being violently attacked, you have no right to take someone's life.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:17 pm to JustGetItRight
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If a person has a reasonable fear for their life
and this is the dumbest, most subjective shite i've ever heard of.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:02 am to PrivatePublic
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Deceased verbally threatened to enter my vehicle and harm me, made a motion to attempt to open my door and then climb into the window."
None of that is an excuse to shoot somebody.
If the guys unarmed, on the opposite side of the car, outside of the door, and has to open the door to get to you. There's no way your life is in danger at that point.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:10 am to Masterag
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and this is the dumbest, most subjective shite i've ever heard of.
It IS subjective. That's why investigators, DA's, and Grand Juries get to weigh in on these situations before they ever go to trial. And then a jury gets the opportunity to determine reasonableness as well. Overall, it's a pretty good system we have in place for this. Not perfect, but very, very good.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 5:00 am to Masterag
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and this is the dumbest, most subjective shite i've ever heard of.
The only shait is what you are spewing.
A reasonable threat varies greatly by situation and that is EXACTLY why there is no defined standard. Go tell a 120 pound woman getting beaten by her drunk 250 pound boyfriend that she has no reason to fear for her life.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 5:32 am to Hogssmellgood
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Even if the witness account isn't true, McKnight was unarmed and was still shot and killed. There shouldn't need to be any more facts.
McKnight was said to have been approaching Gasser and trying to get in his car. Sounds like those are pretty good extra facts if true.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:26 am to Weagle25
You don't wait til you're getting the shite kicked out of you to try and reach for your weapon. You and MasterAg are truly too dumb to insult.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:48 am to LouisvilleKat
Bc the witness was lying.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:50 am to Weagle25
That would be text book self defense if Joe was trying to pull him out of the car
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:53 am to FleshEatingSalsa
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You don't wait til you're getting the shite kicked out of you to try and reach for your weapon. You and MasterAg are truly too dumb to insult.
He could reach for his weapon and point it at him and threaten him or
He could just hit the gas a little and the threats neutralized.
It's not like he can reach inside the car. Unlock the doors. Open the door. Jump in and start beating the shite out of him quickly. You would have plenty of time to shoot somebody by the time all that happened.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:54 am to heartbreakTiger
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That would be text book self defense if Joe was trying to pull him out of the car
He can't pull him out of the car if the guy is at the passenger window while the shooter is in the drivers seat.
If he's at the drivers side window, my stance would completely change.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 10:55 am
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