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re: Georgia, the answer is still NO

Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:24 am to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:24 am to
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That is false, it is federal water.


not really, if that was the case it would be equally divided. Its georgia water that others have rights to

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the other two states are capable of not depleting it's own supply.



Well thats false considering they rely on water from other states. They also dont conserve water like Atlanta and Georgia does.

If they actually conserved water, they might not have the dilemma of fighting for water from georgia
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:56 am to
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If they moved the border to the 35th parallel, it would not only include the water, but would also include East Ridge and Lookout Mountain, TN.


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and 30,000 residents

can you imagine the paperwork


And the shite-storm from 30,000 people being told they now have to pay state income tax!!!
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:58 am to
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just a tiny taste of the water wars of the future


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We'll win if it comes to war. We suck at literally everything else, but we love to fricking fight.

"Give me a thousand men from Tennessee and I'll whip any army in the World"



Knuckle-check at the East Ridge Crossing Sonic.
Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:05 pm to
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That is false, it is federal water


Exactly Who's water was it before the ACOE got involves?

Gee and how did all these "fragile eco systems" survive before lake lanier and the acoe got involved?

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:24 pm to
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Exactly Who's water was it before the ACOE got involves?



It was God's water, man
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:25 pm to
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, the many times in the summer and fall, when Georgia/Atlanta is under water restrictions so tight they shut your water off and fine you immediately for using any water outside. Then I come across the border and see people with all their sprinklers on mid day for hours on end.



This is the big slap in the face.

While everyone is in severe water restrictions around ATL because we are forced to drain lake lanier so lower alabama can have zero water restrictions.

Then you've got the liberal judges trying to protect endangered bullshite in the Appalachicola bay.

Georgia getting fricked.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:29 pm to
One common piece of BS is that the power plants down south need adequate water levels in order to dump their hot water in without affecting the ecosystem.

bullshite.

Use cooling towers and retention ponds and recycle the water.

No, that's expensive, lets get a liberal ignorant judge to drain lake lanier every summer and put ATL on severe water restrictions.

Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:56 pm to
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not really, if that was the case it would be equally divided. Its georgia water that others have rights to


If a body of water touches properties with unique owners it is a federally protected water way with the ACoE having jurisdiction.

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They also dont conserve water like Atlanta and Georgia does.


Wholeheartedly agree and think there should be some relief downstream. But at the end if the day, Atlanta cannot sustain it's growth with the current water supply.
Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 1:00 pm to
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One common piece of BS is that the power plants down south need adequate water levels in order to dump their hot water in without affecting the ecosystem.

bullshite.


Federal law. Thank the EPA and the gulf fisheries.

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Use cooling towers and retention ponds and recycle the water.


That is done before the water can be replaced in the river which, per federal law, must be done.

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No, that's expensive, lets get a liberal ignorant judge to drain lake lanier every summer and put ATL on severe water restrictions.



No, you're just ignorant.
Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 1:12 pm to
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Atlanta cannot sustain it's growth with the current water supply.


Atlanta gets more rainfall than Seattle and COA is currently building a 30 day resovoir along
with an already sizable ones in Cobb and S. Metro...too bad our brethren to the south have absolutely no sense of urgency because their water needs always get priority over metro Atlanta and they rarely feel the pinch of water restrictions.

Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 2:04 pm to
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JamalSanders




Listen very carefully... I'll type slowly..


If the water is shared by everybody...

And owned by everybody...

Then when ONE group of people goes on water restrictions on that water..

Then EVERYBODY should go on water restrictions on that water...

Do you understand now?
Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 2:52 pm to
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Atlanta gets more rainfall than Seattle and COA is currently building a 30 day resovoir along
with an already sizable ones in Cobb and S. Metro...


Good, Atlanta needs it.

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too bad our brethren to the south have absolutely no sense of urgency because their water needs always get priority over metro Atlanta and they rarely feel the pinch of water restrictions


Those to the South budget their water better, therefore they aren't subject to the same restrictions.

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Listen very carefully... I'll type slowly.. 


If the water is shared by everybody... 

And owned by everybody... 

Then when ONE group of people goes on water restrictions on that water.. 

Then EVERYBODY should go on water restrictions on that water... 

Do you understand now?


Perhaps you should get up to speed. If one group is using a larger share than they are due when plentiful then they should be the ones to cut back to everyone else's rate when not plentiful instead of lowering everyone's rate.

Do you understand now?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 2:58 pm to
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Those to the South budget their water better, therefore they aren't subject to the same restrictions.


No they don't,if they did they wouldn't have to tap into another states water supply.How difficult is that to figure out?


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Good, Atlanta needs it


It's been that way for thousands of years.Once again,Atlanta is not the problem.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 3:30 pm to
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Those to the South budget their water better


Do they? or do they just rely on disproportionate amounts of water? They dont face any hardships because of a mandate, not because they budget better.


If its federal water then it should be divided among the population.

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If one group is using a larger share than they are due when plentiful then they should be the ones to cut back to everyone else's rate when not plentiful instead of lowering everyone's rate.


Is that group using a larger portion? That group is also the one on conservation vs the others that waste water.

Do you think the state of alabama should get the same amount of federal dollars as california?
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 3:32 pm
Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 4:03 pm to
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Do they? or do they just rely on disproportionate amounts of water? They dont face any hardships because of a mandate, not because they budget better.


If its federal water then it should be divided among the population.


It's divided among basins with greater percentage allocated for greater population densities.

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that group using a larger portion? That group is also the one on conservation vs the others that waste water.



Yes, Atlanta uses more water than it receives. That's why Atlanta is forced to using conservation methods other areas aren't.

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Do you think the state of alabama should get the same amount of federal dollars as california?


Surely we can have an intelligent conversation.

Edit: changed received to recieves.
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 4:05 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 4:41 pm to
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Yes, Atlanta uses more water than it receives. T


WTF?From who?GOD?


There's MORE than enough rainfall and natural Springs to take care of Metro Atlanta and you have not 1 ounce
of evidence to support your silly claim.
Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 5:49 pm to
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There's MORE than enough rainfall and natural Springs to take care of Metro Atlanta


Then why is Atlanta trying to gain access to more water at the detriment of others?
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 6:25 pm to
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There's MORE than enough rainfall and natural Springs to take care of Metro Atlanta and you have not 1 ounce
of evidence to support your silly claim.



No there isn't. They've already siphoned off enough water from other areas to impact hydroelectric plants and shellfish industries. They are building more reservoirs. And now they're trying to reach into another state to steal resources.


Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28092 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 7:35 am to
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They've already siphoned off enough water from other areas


Which areas? The only states that are siphoning off water are
Alabama and Florida

Posted by Evolved Simian
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:25 am to
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, Then I come across the border and see people with all their sprinklers on mid day for hours on end.


You're full of shite. You've never seen that happen.

The truth is that Atlanta's use has FAR outstripped it's capacity to retain water, so it's tried to fricking drain the Chattahoochee and now wants to tap into the Tennessee.

If you can't control your growth responsibly and ration your own water, you CERTAINLY aren't entitled to water belonging to others.
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