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re: FBI showing signs of mutiny ahead of election.

Posted on 11/2/16 at 3:51 pm to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 3:51 pm to
Sorry bro, but I gotta go back to

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she could have avoided this by turning over the emails in the first place.





Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 3:59 pm to
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Wait, what? That's not what I'm implying at all.


Then I don't understand your point.

The left is up in arms over the timing, but unless someone is really lying the whole thing blew back up again because they found a bunch of e-mail on a device seized as part of the Weiner investigation.

That's massive because Huma said she'd turned over everything she had. She was either lying or Weiner was intercepting her state department e-mail and in either situation someone in that household could well be looking at very serious federal charges.

The only question remaining is why Comey told Congress about the new situation. The simplest explanation is the one that fits with everything that's been said about him thus far - that he's a straight shooter who is simply going to do what he thinks is right and simply relay the facts as he knows them.

In this situation, there simply wasn't a right answer. If he doesn't tell them, do you really think the information wouldn't have been leaked? The story is simply too hot to keep a lid on. It was going to get out before the election. The right would have skewered him and and damage to HRC might have been worse because it would have looked as if there was an active FBI coverup to protect her.

He was in a lose-lose, and probably wishes Weiner had kept his junk to himself more than Hillary and Huma.

Posted by MoarKilometers
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:12 pm to
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Why shouldn't we know everything about the candidates?

You mean like tax returns?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:20 pm to
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You mean like tax returns?



Exactly what would his tax returns tell us that we don't already know?


Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:58 pm to
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If an issue is brought to light, investigate it. I don't care if the subject is Republican, Democrat, or whatever. Just do your job.


I think there is a law that prevents any investigations with a month or two remaining in the election. It is supposed to be applied equally to all sides and will be interesting to see if somebody doing the leaking goes to prison.
Posted by MoarKilometers
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 5:13 pm to
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Exactly what would his tax returns tell us that we don't already know?

How could we know without them? We suspect things and he's even alluded to other stuff, but fact remains we know almost nothing. I get wild accusations loosely based on facts is yuuuge this cycle, but it's not for me.
Posted by rtr1986
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 5:13 pm to
The Hatch Act which was put in place I believe in 1938 or 39, was put in place to keep people in the Executive Branch of Government from influencing elections.
Don't think this applies to criminal investigation case thou.
Been out of school a while so my memory a little rusty lol
Posted by spytiger
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 5:26 pm to
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The only question remaining is why Comey told Congress about the new situation. The simplest explanation is the one that fits with everything that's been said about him thus far - that he's a straight shooter who is simply going to do what he thinks is right and simply relay the facts as he knows them.


Here's what he should have done:

Do the investigation as normal, but with no announcement. The FBI doesn't announce every thing, so there is plenty of precedent to not announce.

If it does leak, so what? Then you can put out an announcement about when you started looking at the emails, and blah, blah, blah. People screaming about a cover up in that instance are going to scream about a cover up anyway, they were doing it earlier this year when the FBI decided to not file charges. Bite the bullet and do your job. Don't do something weird like this announcement so close to the election.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 5:37 pm to
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Cheese Grits



What a Clinton ballwasher you've become .
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 5:37 pm to
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Exactly what would his tax returns tell us that we don't already know?


1) How much he paid (or did not pay)
2) Who he is in bed with

Ross Perot was forced out of that election when it was about to go public that he was only paying 4% in taxes. Hard to get love from middle america who may be paying 25% to 35% and you are sitting their getting richer by paying 4% or 0%. Normal people have no problem paying their fair share but narcissist want to keep it all to themselves.

Trump keeps saying how he never drinks, just remember this guy who said the same thing.
He had a creepy hairdo too!


Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 5:39 pm to
Insufferable Clinton ballwasher.


Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 6:11 pm to
These guys are insane.

1. Taxes are private and not obligatory.

2. Not breaking the fricking law (by every account she has done) is a bit different.

We have every right to know about corruption, but a man's business we do not. It's simple law.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 6:34 pm to
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These guys are insane.

1. Taxes are private and not obligatory.

2. Not breaking the fricking law (by every account she has done) is a bit different.

We have every right to know about corruption, but a man's business we do not. It's simple law.



Hey hey hey. This is logical and reasonable and therefore, not fair.



Posted by MoarKilometers
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 6:42 pm to
Taxes are actually law, and how you circumvent these laws could be relevant. It easily could pointless too.
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 6:49 pm to
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I think there is a law that prevents any investigations with a month or two remaining in the election.


There is no such law.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 6:53 pm to
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The Hatch Act which was put in place I believe in 1938 or 39, was put in place to keep people in the Executive Branch of Government from influencing elections.


The Hatch act limits partisan political activities by government employees. It has nothing at all to do with criminal investigations. The assertion some HRC surrogates made that it was an issue in the announcement was laughable.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 7:01 pm to
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Taxes are actually law, and how you circumvent these laws could be relevant.



To what? I try to avoid paying taxes every year, not evade, AVOID. It's the system, and you're a goddamn fool if you don't try to exploit every loophole in the tax code.


Don't like that people take advantage of the tax code? CLOSE THE frickING LOOPHOLES.



There's NOTHING more Patriotic than avoiding your taxes.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 7:03 pm to
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Taxes are actually law, and how you circumvent these laws could be relevant. It easily could pointless too.


The IRS is auditing him, if he didn't pay taxes it's specifically because corrupt politicians allowed him to do so.

It just looks bad, it's not illegal.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 7:06 pm to
In the end she has a legal duty to perform all actions that are associated with archiving and record keeping.

He has no obligation nor legal duty to show us his personal taxes.

One is of a public interest (government employee) the other is of a prviate interest (businessman). You guys are delusional if you don't think we should know about this before going into an election.
Posted by rtr1986
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 7:08 pm to
I remember talking about this in 2004 in class during the Bush Kerry election, can't remember the reason it was brought up then but I didn't believe the Hatch Act had any sort of relation with a criminal investigation that is being conducted by the FBI.
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