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Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:39 pm to CatFan81
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all fairness, his employer (A&E) has a right to punish him for making inflammatory statements in a public forum as well. It happens all the time.
Exactly what I said on page 1 of this thread, keep up Cat, we're talking about camels and Jesus now
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:39 pm to MCdawg
I don't have a problem with him speaking his beliefs. I just found that part of your statement contradictory. If sin is inherent in humans, why does God keep "making" them?
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:40 pm to MCdawg
Yeah if he would have said just the opposite of what he said would A&E have ttaken the same action. I know Bravo wouldn't have
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:41 pm to The Spleen
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I don't have a problem with him speaking his beliefs. I just found that part of your statement contradictory. If sin is inherent in humans, why does God keep "making" them?
because, even God loves a good redemption story.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:49 pm to The Spleen
He wants us to join him in heaven. But to do that we must follow his word and be the best Christian we can be. If he made us all perfect then this world would be pointless and all would be in heaven. But none of us are like Jesus so that means we aren't perfect. It's like earning our way to heaven. He wants us there, but we have to live the right way. I've tried to explain it the best I can but feel free to look it up yourself in the Bible. Not trying to cram it down your throat that's just my beliefs. If you don't believe in that then that's your choice. Life goes on. Just let the man have his free speech and go on. What he said didn't end the world
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:53 pm to Agforlife
That's for sure
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:59 pm to MCdawg
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God doesn't "make" homosexuals. Just like he doesn't make murderers, thieves, and cheaters. Those are lifestyles and actions that are chosen. That's just as small minded as to say You were born to like rock music or country. You can't help that you like rock better than country, that's just the way God made me. Yea well that's not the way he made you. Thats a personal choice of your own doing. The Bible says homosexuality is sinful. So why would he purposely make someone that was? Pretty sure God doesn't contradict himself. If you don't choose to follow the Bible that's fine. It's your life. But don't use the " God made homosexuals" argument when you don't even associate yourself with Christianity any how
If what you say is true, then become gay right now. Since it's a choice, you can just turn straight anytime you want. I know I can't change who I'm attracted to. You think gays can't either? I'm pretty sure most of them would try to become straight if they could, so they wouldn't have to be persecuted.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:10 pm to Carolina Tide
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If what you say is true, then become gay right now. Since it's a choice, you can just turn straight anytime you want. I know I can't change who I'm attracted to. You think gays can't either? I'm pretty sure most of them would try to become straight if they could, so they wouldn't have to be persecuted.
that flies in the face of people that were gay and went back and married somebody of the opposite sex.
A Jolie, Anne Hesche, etc.
Not saying you are incorrect in the least, just that the science of it doesn't seem to work out.
i will say that there are markers in you genes that make you more inclined to be a certain way. that may manifest itself in homosexuality, promiscuity, drinking, being friendly, being irritable, being closed off, or whatever.
I have a natural inclination to want to bang broads with big cans. I am married and see how that is not acceptable for me to do so. Doesn't mean it's not a desire, because it is, but it's there within me at all times. Now that's just my moral code with what I know the Bible says about it talking at that time.
Who is anybody to tell me that it's wrong for me to want to nail big chested ladies? And as many of them as I can? May not be wrong to the next guy down the line, but it is to me and if I acted against that it would not only be sin in my own eyes, but against God.
Most of the homosexuals do NOT see it as sin in their own eyes and for that I can not fault them or treat them any differently than another soul on this earth.
I will say that it is unquestionably sin in God's eyes. My hope is that more people would take the attitude of Phil Robertson and say love them no matter what or who they are and maybe they'll come to a relationship with God and view sin through his eyes.
ETA: I agree with Phil's attitude but I think his choice of words are something to be desired.
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:14 pm to 3nOut
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Who is anybody to tell me that it's wrong for me to want to nail big chested ladies?
Having impure thoughts is a sin. By having the desire you have already sinned.
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"But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matthew 5:28)
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:16 pm to Stonehog
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Having impure thoughts is a sin. By having the desire you have already sinned.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
In other words stfu
Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:18 pm to Agforlife
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Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
In other words stfu
3nout just said homosexuality is a sin, then followed that up by saying he has desires for women who aren't his wife. That is also a sin.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:18 pm to MCdawg
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strait people
Well you're god damned right they'd fire his arse for talking bad about George Strait.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:19 pm to 3nOut
I agree. With what you are saying.
Also I think if Phil had stopped after saying that homosexuality is a sin, he wouldn't be in this mess.
Also I think if Phil had stopped after saying that homosexuality is a sin, he wouldn't be in this mess.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:25 pm to 3nOut
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A Jolie, Anne Hesche, etc.
Not saying you are incorrect in the least, just that the science of it doesn't seem to work out.
You say the "science doesn't seem to work out," but your only evidence is Anne Hesche and Angelina Jolie? That's not scientific evidence.
And as long as we're using anecdotal evidence, how about the millions of gay people that say it's not a choice? Do you think they're just lying?
Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:30 pm to Stonehog
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You say the "science doesn't seem to work out," but your only evidence is Anne Hesche and Angelina Jolie? That's not scientific evidence.
And as long as we're using anecdotal evidence, how about the millions of gay people that say it's not a choice? Do you think they're just lying?
ummm.... ok.
and for kicks and giggles
Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:30 pm to cas4t
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It sounds more like the Bible contradicts itself.
Impossible. Infallible word of God and what not.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:30 pm to Carolina Tide
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Also I think if Phil had stopped after saying that homosexuality is a sin, he wouldn't be in this mess.
I'm not so sure, the big pink mafia is always looking for a lightning rod.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:31 pm to MCdawg
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God doesn't "make" homosexuals.
So are you also saying psychological orders/actual chemical imbalances that may cause negative behavior in people (i.e. Depression which could lead to suicide which is a sin) is a choice? Or how do you explain a sociopath that comes from a normal, church going family? Did they make him that way? At what point is it our will or God's will? Is it only our will when it's a sin that needs to be "punished"?
There just seems to be an awful lot of grey area with this "it's a choice" ideology.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:33 pm to BluegrassBelle
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There just seems to be an awful lot of grey area with this "it's a choice" ideology.
^This. Sounds like an excuse...
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