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re: Does life have objective meaning?

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Posted by derSturm37
Texas
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Posted on 2/7/15 at 12:00 pm to
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That we exist proves the act of being conscious is a function of the brain.


I think that when he said "consciousness" he meant a universal, omnipresent consciousness. I noticed the weakness of the wording but went with what [I thought] he MEANT to say.

It has not been proved that consciousness is a product of the brain. On the contrary the origin of consciousness is the source of great scientific debate. It has been postulated that consciousness is created somewhere else, and that our brains are something along the likes of radio receivers/processors/amplifiers/distorters. Sounds crazy as hell I know. Like something postulated on an acid trip. But I believe that if you'll delve into the latest studies on the subject you'll be surprised. Your entire world view will be challenged, in fact.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 6:13 pm to
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It has not been proved that consciousness is a product of the brain.


Yes, it has. Most people make the mistake of regarding consciousness as a thing. It's better to say, "The act of being conscious." It's a process generated by the brain.

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It has been postulated that consciousness is created somewhere else, and that our brains are something along the likes of radio receivers/processors/amplifiers/distorters.


Yes, this is crazy as hell. It's a wild philosophy without even a trace of scientific evidence.

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But I believe that if you'll delve into the latest studies on the subject you'll be surprised. Your entire world view will be challenged, in fact.


If there is no empirical evidence being sought, the subject would not appeal to me. My reductionist, scientific foundation is extremely resistant to any philosophy that isn't seeking a natural explanation.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 2/7/15 at 8:14 pm to
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You'd enter into the ultimate nihilist continuous cycle.



This is where entheogens come in handy!
Posted by derSturm37
Texas
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/7/15 at 10:09 pm to
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My reductionist, scientific foundation is extremely resistant to any philosophy that isn't seeking a natural explanation.


Define the limits (beginning AND end) of "natural" and then we'll advance...
This post was edited on 2/7/15 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 10:13 pm to
What's your definition of a scientist?
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 10:14 pm to
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Define the limits (beginning AND end) of "natural" and then we'll advance...


I liked your first response. What is a scientist by your definition?
Posted by derSturm37
Texas
Member since May 2013
1521 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 10:17 pm to
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I liked your first response. What is a scientist by your definition?


Scientist - noun. One whose personal philosophy is the quest for object truth via the scientific method.
This post was edited on 2/7/15 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 10:40 pm to
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Scientist - noun. One whose personal philosophy is the quest for abject truth via the scientific method.


Except for the word abject, I think this is me.

Back at you:

Natural - adjective. Existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by mankind.
Posted by derSturm37
Texas
Member since May 2013
1521 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 10:44 pm to
Whilst waiting for your response I changed "abject" to "object". :lol:

Yes, I am all about "natural". Nature is the Word of God. (The Bible, The Koran, The Vedas, et al AND et cetera, are pollutions).

Science must always and forever be ALL about the natural.
Posted by Gladius Veritas
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since May 2012
13189 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 10:49 pm to
no

we're all just products of a long arse string of somewhat random events that could've easily gone a different way
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 10:57 pm to
I was wondering about that.

I don't like the words abject or truth. Together they just reek of subjectivity, which has derailed many a good theory before it could get any kind of momentum.

Nature is the Word of God to you? Are you reconciling scientific discoveries with your personal beliefs? I wish more believers could do that, or at least try to instead of taking a blind stand against science.

I don't have any beliefs. I don't use that word in describing my outlook on anything. It's too hazy for me.
Posted by derSturm37
Texas
Member since May 2013
1521 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:07 am to
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I don't have any beliefs. I don't use that word in describing my outlook on anything. It's too hazy for me


Then you, Sir, are [representative of] hope for our species.

Carry on. Continue. Please....
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 7:28 am to
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If you like Sci-Fi, then you'd like it. It's a surprisingly well-done prequel to the Alien series of movies. There are no big-name stars but this makes it better, I think.


I like sci-fi, so probably. And isn't Fassbender in it? That's a pretty big star, IMO.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 7:36 am to
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Fassbender


Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
Crimson Tide Fan Club
Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 8:42 am to
Also in I is Charlize Theron and that black dude that is always a military officer or something else serious in random movies.
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