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re: Bill to Legalize and Regulate Marijuana Introduced in Alabama

Posted on 4/7/13 at 8:54 pm to
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
8000 posts
Posted on 4/7/13 at 8:54 pm to
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What county do you live in?


I live in TN. You can't buy wine in the grocery store anywhere in the state. If your state is less progressive than Alabama, then your state needs to check itself.

Really this whole argument is identical to most others - it boils down to people wanting to impose their own morals on everyone else.

Live and let live.

Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/8/13 at 12:57 am to
The day is coming when we'll finally have legal weed.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/8/13 at 12:58 am to
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And although it isn't physically addictive it can be very psychologically addictive. I say this as a person who has smoked since being a teenager.



I mean, the internet can also be psychologically addicting, as can television. Anything can be psychologically addicting if moderation isn't used.
Posted by Serenadium51
King, NC
Member since Feb 2013
542 posts
Posted on 4/8/13 at 1:27 am to
Recruiting is more addictive than weed
Posted by Serenadium51
King, NC
Member since Feb 2013
542 posts
Posted on 4/8/13 at 1:33 am to
Seriously though, i was probably blitzed all through high school. Got into Appy State and got my graduate degree at Chapel Hill, so I think i turned out ok. I know i'm just 1 person but i never experienced any really negative side effects at all.
This post was edited on 4/8/13 at 1:33 am
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 4/8/13 at 7:13 am to
You could have been an astronaut if you didn't smoke though
This post was edited on 4/8/13 at 7:22 am
Posted by Serenadium51
King, NC
Member since Feb 2013
542 posts
Posted on 4/8/13 at 7:33 am to


Nah, i hate astronomy and stuff like that. Space bores the piss out of me.
This post was edited on 4/8/13 at 7:42 am
Posted by robby1220
Trion, Ga
Member since Sep 2012
1160 posts
Posted on 4/8/13 at 8:40 am to
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This measure would legalize the possession of up to one ounce of marijuana and the cultivation of up to 12 mature marijuana plants by those over the age of 21. It would also authorize the Department of Revenue to establish marijuana retail outlets.


Okay, I had a thought on this over the weekend (actually while I was burning one, so go figure ) which was that this bill is seriously flawed. How in the hell are they going to let you grow more than you can legally own? 12 mature plants will give off a hell of a lot more than an ounce.

And if they sell it in retail shops, what the hell does it matter how much you have? That's like saying alcohol is legal, but you can only have up to one six-pack in your possesion.

Makes no sense to me... but we are talking about Alabama.

Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106265 posts
Posted on 4/8/13 at 8:41 am to
We're just now getting around to potentially legalizing hemp again. Kentucky will be one of the last states to legalize it and it's a shame because of how much money the state could make off of it considering how much we produce.
Posted by robby1220
Trion, Ga
Member since Sep 2012
1160 posts
Posted on 4/8/13 at 8:46 am to
I really think it's more one of those "one in hand is better than two in the bush" type deals. Everyone says "They won't legalize it because they can't tax it" but thats bullshite. They can tax the shite out of it and people would pay it. The problem is that they already have a perfectly fine money making machine in place with it being illegal (fines, probation, bond fees, etc.) and there is no sense in changing that just in the hopes of making more money from legalized taxation. Just MHO though, I could be way off.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 4/8/13 at 10:06 am to
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The problem is that they already have a perfectly fine money making machine in place with it being illegal (fines, probation, bond fees, etc.) and there is no sense in changing that just in the hopes of making more money from legalized taxation. Just MHO though, I could be way off.


Your logic isn't off IMO. My argument however would be that the fines and bail are unproductive. At least with a tax, there is some economic benefit to the transaction and it doesn't make people criminals that shouldn't be criminals.

Of course they can tax it though. I'd pay the tax for the convenience of going to my local circle k. I think most would as well.
Posted by robby1220
Trion, Ga
Member since Sep 2012
1160 posts
Posted on 4/8/13 at 10:41 am to
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At least with a tax, there is some economic benefit to the transaction


Agreed. I read somewhere that when California medicinally legalized pot, within 2 or 3 years it became the number one cash crop, passing even oranges.

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I'd pay the tax for the convenience of going to my local circle k


Again, you're spot on. People have this strange misconception that no one would bother paying for it when they can just grow their own. Whenever this argument comes up, I always have the same response... people can grow tobacco too, but few bother when they can just run to the store and grab a pack of Camels.
Posted by DonDraper
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/8/13 at 1:31 pm to
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I mean, the internet can also be psychologically addicting, as can television. Anything can be psychologically addicting if moderation isn't used.



And that's what I was trying to tell Cheeseburger. An old coworker of mine had a brother who was legitimately addicted to internet porn. I'm talking about not spending time with his kids because he couldnt pull himself away, also losing his job because he downloaded so much.

Too much of anything is bad.
Posted by DonDraper
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/8/13 at 1:57 pm to
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The problem is that they already have a perfectly fine money making machine in place with it being illegal (fines, probation, bond fees, etc.)


This. This, and this.

There's everything from seizing assets, to making sure the privatized prisons stay full.

Fighting the "war on drugs" has become a nice little money maker. There's a reason we've been fighting it for 30 something years with nothing to show for it. Thousands of people are employed to enforce the law.

Possibly the biggest obstacle(most overlooked) in legalization is the power of Big Pharmacy. How many people do you know take Advil for a headache? Blood pressure meds? All of that money goes to Big Pharm, and it's clearly displayed on the top earning companies in the US. If you keep digging you'll also see that Big Pharm also is around the top of the list for paying lobbyist. Their worst nightmare is instead of you popping your highly addictive Ambien every night, you replace is with marijuana.

If you want to be a long lasting/successful drug dealer you dont shoot up a rival in Juarez, or try to elude the police. Instead you just pay the government.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28167 posts
Posted on 4/8/13 at 2:51 pm to
Unless something has changed in the last year or two, individuals can't even brew their own beer in Alabama. Now, someone wants to legalize weed.

I don't see it happening.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73253 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 7:57 pm to
I would become a gump. lol

Posted by MikeHoncho
Anytown, USA
Member since Oct 2012
2769 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 8:12 pm to
late to the party, brah

Posted by Wrenchruh
Parts Unknown
Member since Sep 2012
2413 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 8:28 pm to
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I would become a gump. lol


If you bump a month old thread with that, you probably need to stay off the pot.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:29 pm to
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Unless something has changed in the last year or two, individuals can't even brew their own beer in Alabama


Passed last week. Now legal to brew up to 15 gallons every 3 months.
Posted by 15sammy34
Auburn, AL
Member since Oct 2011
16137 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:47 pm to
Beer and weed is bad
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