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KSGamecock
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APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
'Traditional masculinity' deemed harmful, could lead to sexual harassment, medical group says

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A recent report published by the American Psychological Association, “The Psychology of Men and Masculinities”, has introduced a new term, “Masculinity Ideology” to describe what what the APA considers to be traditional Masculinity and its negative effects.

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“The main thrust of the subsequent research is that traditional masculinity – marked by stoicism, competitiveness, dominance and aggression – is, on the whole, harmful,”


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“Traditional masculinity ideology has been shown to limit males’ psychological development, constrain their behavior, result in gender role strain and gender role conflict and negatively influence mental health and physical health,”


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“[Masculinity Ideology is] a particular constellation of standards that have held sway over large segments of the population, including: anti-femininity, achievement, eschewal of the appearance of weakness, and adventure, risk, and violence.”


The report goes on to allege that “Masculinity Ideology” also encourages homophobia and sexual harassment.

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Ronald F Levant, a lecturer and professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Akron, has devoted his life to the study of toxic masculinity, increasing public awareness of the issue, and also helped coauthor the work. He said,

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”Though men benefit from patriarchy, they are also impinged upon by patriarchy,” ”


The paper goes on to advise APA clinicians on how to address the problem, especially when dealing with boys.

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“power, privilege, and sexism work both by conferring benefits to men and by trapping them in narrow roles.”


PS: genro, if you happen to read this, the answer is yes, yes he is.
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DownSouthJukin
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
Ima need SECdragonmaster to weigh in on this.


thatguy45
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
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[Masculinity Ideology is] a particular constellation of standards that have held sway over large segments of the population, including: anti-femininity, achievement, eschewal of the appearance of weakness, and adventure, risk, and violence.”

Barring the views one may hold of things in this list, I see no reason for achievement to be bad a bad thing, yet there it is. But then achievement means competitiveness, something that is key in society's development.
You say it cant be done, it makes a person want to do it. You say you can do this, someone will want to one up you. Space race, nuclear arms race, etc.

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the answer is yes, yes he is.

I thought that was obvious from the pic?


Texas Weazel
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
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Ronald F Levant, a lecturer and professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Akron, has devoted his life to the study of toxic masculinity

Our tax dollars at work, folks.


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wmr
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
Toxic Femininity, which is un-restrained hypergamy mixed with promiscuity. It leads to abortions and broken families.

In our feminine-primary society, few are willing to discuss toxic-femininity.


wmr
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
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the answer is yes, yes he is.


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I thought that was obvious from the pic?


I have learned that people like this fricker are always at odds with anything I hold dear, ergo I have learned I need to hate people like this guy.

frick them all.


KSGamecock
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
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I have learned I need to hate people like this guy.


Preach brother, my sentiments to a T. Gradually I began to hate them.
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BowlJackson
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
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Toxic Femininity, which is un-restrained hypergamy mixed with promiscuity. It leads to abortions and broken families.

In our feminine-primary society, few are willing to discuss toxic-femininity.



All humans are toxic. I knew it


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Trumansfangs
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
The most interesting part of that article was this little sub-plot :

Eating vegan diet promotes white masculinity

Some of those psychologists are such kooks ! ;)


KSGamecock
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
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Eating vegan diet promotes white masculinity


Short of every White Christian Straight Male killing themselves, everything is "problematic" for these people.
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Trumansfangs
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"Mycek admits that her choice to identify as a woman and as vegan may have influenced her data collection interviewing the men for the project."



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thatguy45
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
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The men effectively engage in a feminized practice (eating only plants) but masculinize it, rather than feminize themselves and their consumption identities

this is a little excessive
I assume though that this same person would say a man wanting to be a woman and putting on a dress does not masculinize it, its just "normal"
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StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
I studied psychology for a few years before ultimately dropping out to pursue other ventures in life -- like not being murdered by gun runners.

Without the jokes: I noticed that psychology is overwhelmingly liberal and almost obsessed with capitulating to American liberalism while ignoring axiomata that have been established for quite some time.

For instance: The treatment for Gender Dysphoria (transsexual, transgendered) is:

The main psychiatric approaches to treatment for persons diagnosed with gender dysphoria are psychotherapy or supporting the individual's preferred gender through hormone therapy, gender expression and role, or surgery.

In no other field of psychological treatment do we suggest that the person suffering from a psychological disorder should go deeper into the disorder, until mutilation. I'm extremely tolerant and empathetic with transpeople, as I am with all people -- I just want them to be happy.

However, we don't prescribe a scalpel to treat people who self-harm, nor do we say: "You're an alcoholic, so what you need to do is accept that you like to drink."

The APA is also unilaterally against physical punishment, even though 100% of human history and about 75% of the world has taken part in physical punishment of their offspring. Perhaps it might not be ideal, or even prescribed, but to say unilaterally no parent should ever physically discipline their child is not just ignorant, it's borderline mentally deficient.

Obviously, part of my dropping out dealt with debating -- because I don't believe psychology is rigid, I believe it is very flexible and that different people require different stimuli.

As for traditional masculinity, I'm just not sure I can understand what is "traditional". They put in the article:

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marked by stoicism, competitiveness, dominance and aggression


These are natural, evolutionary traits that have worked for centuries. There are some alternative ideas -- I'd argue that very few male feminists are the way they are because of some affinity to women's rights, they're that way because it's their way of passively aggressively chasing their target.

Indeed, if you wish to put blame on someone: blame women. Man's behavior is almost directly correlated for what women want. The way a man behaves is almost always tied to the desires of women, and so if women (and/or gay men) want men to change, they must first change themselves. If those traits become undesirable, I can almost guarantee you that the shift in mankind will shift immediately


KSGamecock
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
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Indeed, if you wish to put blame on someone: blame women. Man's behavior is almost directly correlated for what women want. The way a man behaves is almost always tied to the desires of women, and so if women (and/or gay men) want men to change, they must first change themselves. If those traits become undesirable, I can almost guarantee you that the shift in mankind will shift immediately


Well that settles it. We a MGTOW board now. Everybody buy a fedora and gain 40 pounds.


thatguy45
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
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Everybody buy a fedora and gain 40 pounds.

That would imply that most on this board haven't already done so


Cheese Grits
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
So is it no longer appropriate for me to whip it out and bang it on the bedpost?


thatguy45
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
Whatever helps you to get the morning started right


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Maytheporkbewithyou
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
But.....what's wrong with my wife making me a sammich?


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Korin
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KSGamecock
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re: APA: Traditional Masculinity is harmful; leads to homophobia, sexual harassment
That's a pretty damn 90s photo


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