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re: 9/11 Was A Conspiracy!
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:02 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:02 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Did they graduate "Magma" Cum Laude?
That made me laugh IRL.
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:02 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Hey, I'm with you in that I don't buy the official story of it being just a terrorist attack. It wouldn't shock me one bit to know that the U.S. government carried out the attack on its own people. But that building DID collapse for the reasons I stated prior. An airplane did hit it and precipitate the collapse. The damage from falling debris and the resulting firestorm most likely toppled WTC 7. However, the causes of the attacks itself as well as who executed it remain very questionable in my mind.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:02 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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There's a Superbowl and Nat'l Championship winning football coach that doesn't buy it
And that's where I get my scientific data, Pete Carroll.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:03 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Also I remember when your first account got banned for making personal attacks and insulting the armed forces, so you probably should take that into account
I insulted someone for contributing to a message board during their entire shift, daily (nightly), while being paid by taxpayers.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:04 pm to AUCatfish
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There's a Superbowl and Nat'l Championship winning football coach that doesn't buy it
And that's where I get my scientific data, Pete Carroll.
What you just did is an epidemic on this board.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:07 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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I insulted someone for contributing to a message board during their entire shift, daily (nightly), while being paid by taxpayers.
trying to justify it
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:07 pm to Sleeping Tiger
You get so stupid on this subject. You absolutely lose your mind.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:08 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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What you just did is an epidemic on this board.
Getting our scientific data from Pete Carroll?
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:09 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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insulted someone for contributing to a message board during their entire shift, daily (nightly), while being paid by taxpayers.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:10 pm to Sleeping Tiger
It's kind of strange that you see it as a deeply personal attack, enough to bring it up at some point. Can you at least admit to some degree, that the actual engineer in this conversation might have more knowledge of architectural integrity than you?
And it was asked to cite your work, what their names are, where they are employed.
When in the face of the most comprehensive, lucid and direct evidence you find it necessary to argue the point, we have to start to wonder whether or not you're worthy of being taken seriously.
I have literally never seen someone contort and break their back to avoid saying: "Damn, maybe I'm wrong."
And it was asked to cite your work, what their names are, where they are employed.
When in the face of the most comprehensive, lucid and direct evidence you find it necessary to argue the point, we have to start to wonder whether or not you're worthy of being taken seriously.
I have literally never seen someone contort and break their back to avoid saying: "Damn, maybe I'm wrong."
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:10 pm to Rebelgator
Hopefully he melts on you this time so he can get banned again
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:12 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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What you just did is an epidemic on this board.
I'm sorry that I don't buy the justification for your insane theories because a football coach agrees with them.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:13 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:15 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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I don't feel like I deserve the personal attacks that I receive
You've got engineers in this thread, one of them graduated in Petroleum Engineering and works in the design and construction of buildings, pointing out how it is not only plausible, but inevitable that the WTC supports would fail after having to carry additional loads due to supports being damaged after the collision and due to the supports being exposed to temperatures that could weaken their yield strength's as much as 80-90% of their nominal values.The building just wasn't, and couldn't, be designed to withstand that big of a decrease in support strength.
I feel like kingbob gave a very consise overview of the failure mechanisms in the building a few pages back. The minute you destroy supports and severely weaken others to the point that they also fail, the remaining supports are put under a much greater amount of stress to make up for the loss. I'd imagine this increase in stress is exponential with each column failing, because not only do the remaining columns have to pick up the vertical load from the building, but then you get into some issues of the columns having to put forth even more force to maintain a corrective moment.
These are just basic facts of mechanics of materials and thermodynamics. The reason you are getting attacked personally is because you presume to know more about structural engineering than the structural engineer and you ignore the information provided to you. You then call the people with a background in this kind of stuff ignorant and provide nothing to back your claims.
I'm sure you are a perfectly wonderful guy, but you've earned all the criticism you get in this thread.
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:15 pm to the808bass
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You get so stupid on this subject. You absolutely lose your mind.
I think I stay fairly grounded and unrattled, especially considering the onslaught of attacks I receive.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:17 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
The shitty thing is, when he's not off on a conspiracy tangent, he can be pleasant.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:18 pm to Ross
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You've got engineers in this thread, one of them graduated in Petroleum Engineering and works in the design and construction of buildings, pointing out how it is not only plausible, but inevitable that the WTC supports would fail after having to carry additional loads due to supports being damaged after the collision and due to the supports being exposed to temperatures that could weaken their yield strength's as much as 80-90% of their nominal values.The building just wasn't, and couldn't, be designed to withstand that big of a decrease in support strength.
Well there are engineers and architects that have studied the specifics of this event and don't buy it. But I'm sure that the engineer in this thread, who displayed no specific knowledge of something as basic as the design of the towers knows best.
There are experts on both sides of the debate, so basically saying that there is an expert on your side doesn't really mean all that much.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:20 pm to AUCatfish
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I'm sorry that I don't buy the justification for your insane theories because a football coach agrees with them.
And you continue to display the epidemic. There was more in that paragraph than a football coach. And anyway, what Pete Carroll thinks doesn't really matter, it's just a nice way to dispel images like the one Prettyboyfloyd just shared.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:22 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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And anyway, what Pete Carroll thinks doesn't really matter,
THEN WHY BRING IT UP?
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:22 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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And you continue to display the epidemic. There was more in that paragraph than a football coach. And anyway, what Pete Carroll thinks doesn't really matter, it's just a nice way to dispel images like the one Prettyboyfloyd just shared.
This is how signatures get made.
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