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Posted on 9/2/13 at 12:05 am
Posted on 9/2/13 at 12:05 am
Saw this on PM thought I'd share:
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Posted this in another thread, but since I wasted the amount of time that I did on it, figured I'd start another thread if folks were interested...
Some facts about Toledo from last season...
2012:
Wins
+3 @ Wyoming (4-8)
+12 vs. Bowling Green (8-5)
+10 vs. Coastal Carolina (D-IAA)
+20 @ Western Michigan (4-8)
+15 vs. Central Michigan (7-6)
+5 @ Eastern Michigan (2-10)
+6 vs. Cincy (10-3)
+5 @ Buffalo (4-8)
+12 vs. Akron (1-11)
Losses
-7 @ Arizona (8-5)
-7 vs. Ball State (9-4)
-7 @ Northern Illinois (12-2)
-26 vs. Utah State (11-2)
Offensive Ranks
Total Offense: 32nd nationally
Passing: 45th
Rushing: 36th
Scoring: 45th
Time of Possession: 21st
Defensive Ranks:
Total Defense:115th
Passing: 113th
Rushing: 85th
Scoring: 60th
Turnover ratio: 32nd
Schedule Strength: 92nd
Sagarin Ratings if Toledo were on Mizzou's 2012 schedule:
1. Alabama
3. aTm
4. Georgia
6. South Carolina
7. Florida
25. Vanderbilt
28. Arizona State
38. Syracuse
40. Missouri
45. UCF
56. Tennessee
69. Toledo
93. Kentucky
What I've taken away from this:
1. Toledo had a good, not great offense. They actually are quite adept at holding the ball. Florida turned this on their head out possessing Toledo 40 minutes to 20 minutes. They are well balanced and can put up some points...but it's not quite the Texas Tech Air Raid offense that some might expect.
2. Toledo's defense was ATROCIOUS last season. The only thing that kept them respectable was forcing turnovers and keeping their squad off the field with good offensive ToP. Florida ran up 262 yards of rushing offense in week one against Toledo. Florida ran for 170 last year against us, to compare. Last year, they gave up over 30 points per game every time they hit the road.
3. Toledo is good at protecting the football and forcing TO's. Ranking 32nd last year is good. They broke even in the Swamp going 1:1. They won't kill themselves here, which keeps them in a lot of ballgames.
4. Toledo may have gotten some wins over teams with gaudy numbers, but it didn't show up in their SOS. 92nd in pretty darn bad.
5. Speaking of wins, they beat Cincy (who wasn't as great as 10 wins makes them seem, imo) at home, and a bunch of mediocre to bad teams. On the road, they scratched out some close wins.
6. According to Sagarin, Toledo would've been the 2nd worse D-IA team we woudl've played last year. A full step below teams like Tennessee and UCF, who we beat, while injured, on the road.
What Mizzou needs to do to be successful:
1. Limit turnovers. Toledo is good at creating them and doesn't give many away. Its the easiest way to make this a contest, or worse, lose. Must protect the rock.
2. Focus on the run game. This keeps the ball out of Toledo's hands and doesn't allow them to control the clock. Furthermore, they have proven they can't stop the run, and to me, that's Mizzou's strength. Forecasts look to be brutal, again...If it's mid-afternoon in 90+ Missouri heat, jamming the ball down their throat repeatedly will yield success, will kill their will and will rest our defense.
3. Start fast. Toledo is comign off of a lowscoring affair where they were physically pummelled for 60 minutes in heat last week. You get up 2-3 scores in the first quarter, they may simply fold up shop. If nothing else, it will make them more one dimensional, which kills their offensive strength: balance. Mizzou simply cannot come out and look completely clueless like they did last week. They do that this week, and they're in for a struggle.
Lastly, as I type this, I see one of the other top three MAC teams in Ohio (Northern Illinois and Toledo being the others), losing 42-0 at Louisville.
Northern Illinois beat a pretty pedestrian Iowa squad yesterday in Iowa City.
Fact is, this is a game Mizzou should win. It may not be 49-6, but if Mizzou shows up and plays up to their ability, it should be a fairly comfortable 3 td win imo.
Posted on 9/2/13 at 12:22 am to TrueSon2014
The Toledo and Indiana games will tell us a lot about Missouri this year. Josey seems back to be full strength which bodes well for Missouri as I consider him one of the strengths of the Missouri team. Missouri just needs to run the ball and control the clock. If Missouri doesn't turn the ball over or make silly mistakes, Missouri will be 2-0.
Posted on 9/2/13 at 12:36 pm to ozland
Great analysis in the OP. One Florida poster commented the other day that if we run the ball down their throat we'll win comfortably because they can't stop it. We do that, and take care of the ball, I think we'll win comfortably enough to give our backups some additional in-game experience. And that's always a positive. Lack of depth killed us last year, and the more experience we can get the backups, the better off we'll be. 
Posted on 9/2/13 at 1:57 pm to semotruman
The opening line was -11.5 mizzou, it's already moved to -17.5. A LOT of early money on our tigers!!
Posted on 9/2/13 at 2:03 pm to FightTigers
Florida only beat them 24-6. I think this could be a decent measuring stick game.
Posted on 9/2/13 at 3:08 pm to Mizzou23
Yes, but Florida's O is anemic. I figure Toledo will put some points on the board, but they can't stop anything.
I think it's going to be a 38-24 type of game. Mizzou.
I think it's going to be a 38-24 type of game. Mizzou.
This post was edited on 9/2/13 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 9/2/13 at 3:45 pm to TheOtherWhiteMeat
I think you're about right. I think -17.5 is a suckers bet, Mizzou will struggle to cover that unless our defense is MUCH better this week
Posted on 9/2/13 at 3:46 pm to FightTigers
The lines don't come out on the cards until tomorrow here. I don't foresee it being much above 10, but I've been wrong before.
Posted on 9/2/13 at 3:48 pm to Mizzeaux
Mizzeaux I think the institutional bettors are liking Mizzou a ton more this season. I just want at least 7 regular season wins, and I think that can possibly happen with this squad
Posted on 9/4/13 at 1:28 pm to Mizzeaux
And I was wrong again. Opened up at 17/17.5.
I think I'll take Toledo and the points.
I think I'll take Toledo and the points.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 1:51 pm to Mizzeaux
Well I effectively brought out all of them
so I would call that a success
Posted on 9/4/13 at 2:22 pm to MizzouSEC2012
NCAA re-rank was posted the rant yesterday LINK
Arkansas state and toledo ranked ahead of us:
Toledo 43
Arkansas State 48
Mizzou 57

Arkansas state and toledo ranked ahead of us:
Toledo 43
Arkansas State 48
Mizzou 57
This post was edited on 9/4/13 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 9/4/13 at 2:25 pm to zou_keeper
That's the dumbest "re-rank" I've ever came across. Look at Arkansas and ULL.
There's many more eye openers, too many to list, actually.
There's many more eye openers, too many to list, actually.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 3:11 pm to FightTigers
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I think you're about right. I think -17.5 is a suckers bet, Mizzou will struggle to cover that unless our defense is MUCH better this week
The defense can't get any better than it was in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th quarters. Expecting them, or asking them, to play better than that is unrealistic.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 3:36 pm to notsince98
I agree. If the 1st quarter defense shows up, can be a long day. If the 2/3/4 quarter defense shows up, shouldn't give up much more than UF did. Regardless, should outscore them either way.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 4:21 pm to reedus23
Toledo - I can't tell much about the Toledo of this year to early to tell, but last year they played well against some FBS schools...
Impressive:
at Arizona Wildcats
Arizona Stadium, Tucson, AZ Lost 24-17
Total yards:
Arizona 624
Toledo 358
What I can tell is our offense seems to beat out Florida's, so it wouldn't be a suprise if we racked up around 40 points.
Cincinnati Bearcats
Glass Bowl, Toledo, OH Won 29-23
Cincinnati struggled to through the ball as there quaterback M. Legaux (not near as good as James Frnaklin) threw 15-37...
Cincinnati ran the football fairly well against Toledo racking up a total of 251 yards...
Non-impressive:
Ball State Cardinals
Glass Bowl, Toledo, OH Lost 34-27
at Northern Illinois Huskies
Huskie Stadium, Dekalb, IL Lost 31-24
Utah State Aggies
Bronco Stadium, Boise, ID Lost 41-15
Final Prediction: If our defense struggles as it did against Murray State in the First Quater we may be in trouble, but in the end I think we win.
Impressive:
at Arizona Wildcats
Arizona Stadium, Tucson, AZ Lost 24-17
Total yards:
Arizona 624
Toledo 358
What I can tell is our offense seems to beat out Florida's, so it wouldn't be a suprise if we racked up around 40 points.
Cincinnati Bearcats
Glass Bowl, Toledo, OH Won 29-23
Cincinnati struggled to through the ball as there quaterback M. Legaux (not near as good as James Frnaklin) threw 15-37...
Cincinnati ran the football fairly well against Toledo racking up a total of 251 yards...
Non-impressive:
Ball State Cardinals
Glass Bowl, Toledo, OH Lost 34-27
at Northern Illinois Huskies
Huskie Stadium, Dekalb, IL Lost 31-24
Utah State Aggies
Bronco Stadium, Boise, ID Lost 41-15
Final Prediction: If our defense struggles as it did against Murray State in the First Quater we may be in trouble, but in the end I think we win.
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