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re: Those that think this Barry Odom hire was Kim Anderson 2.0 please post in this thread.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:26 pm to JesusQuintana
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:26 pm to JesusQuintana
Should have gotten someone with HC experience.
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:09 pm to TigerCruise
Do you like Campbell, Rhule or Dykes? Everyone would be screaming to fire them too.
Coordinators have been hired with success many times. Just didn't work out it appears.
Coordinators have been hired with success many times. Just didn't work out it appears.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:13 pm to JesusQuintana
So what I have seen is:
1. It's GP's fault because he left us in a lurch.
2. It's the players fault because they are pussies.
Ain't none of this BO's fault!!! Amirite?
1. It's GP's fault because he left us in a lurch.
2. It's the players fault because they are pussies.
Ain't none of this BO's fault!!! Amirite?
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:24 pm to reedus23
BO has his share in this.
The last few years of GP and BO have had retention issues. DE is a good example. It’s a really good unit with Frazier, Loud, Howard and Brady. Instead it’s Frazier and Harold.
The last few years of GP and BO have had retention issues. DE is a good example. It’s a really good unit with Frazier, Loud, Howard and Brady. Instead it’s Frazier and Harold.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:28 pm to wubilli
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The last few years of GP and BO have had retention issues.
So you agree. KA 2.0?
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:42 pm to TigerCruise
So who would you realistically have hired? And there was no way Herman was going to even answer the phone. Cambell and Rhule have both stunk since getting better jobs.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:44 pm to reedus23
Other things that remind me of KA:
109th - Completion %
129th - Time of possession
129th - Turnover Margin
Yeah, I quit looking after that.
109th - Completion %
129th - Time of possession
129th - Turnover Margin
Yeah, I quit looking after that.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:45 pm to reedus23
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So you agree. KA 2.0?
Still think it’s more similar to Muschamp’s time at Florida.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:03 pm to reedus23
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Amirite?
No
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:26 am to reedus23
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Other things that remind me of KA:
109th - Completion %
129th - Time of possession
129th - Turnover Margin
A reflection of where BO has taken us in less then 2 years.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 11:19 am to kilo
If memory serves me correctly everyone on this board approved BO being hired
Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:04 pm to Wtodd
Oh please, not one person on here said "I hope we hire Barry Odom". Everyone wanted a big name, hot hire with coaching experience. When we "settled" for Barry, because that's what we did, people thought we would be getting a continuation of the Pinkel regime. Instead Barry had to dismantle the defense and the soul of the team in favor of some bullshite scheme/system that the players hated and got some of the worst results in the FBS.
No one would have liked the Barry Odom hire if he came out and said, I'm here to rebuild Mizzou, people would have been asking how a top 10 defense returning 8 starters would be rebuilding, because it shouldn't have been. If Barry was worth his weight, the 2016 defense should have been at least top 25. But no, he destroyed it down to its roots, now we have this shite show.
No one would have liked the Barry Odom hire if he came out and said, I'm here to rebuild Mizzou, people would have been asking how a top 10 defense returning 8 starters would be rebuilding, because it shouldn't have been. If Barry was worth his weight, the 2016 defense should have been at least top 25. But no, he destroyed it down to its roots, now we have this shite show.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:29 pm to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Well, Baylor is still a special kind of toxic after all it's rape allegations and cover ups. I think karma is hitting them big time.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 4:48 pm to TigerCruise
Sure, everyone wanted a big name. Problem is, it's just not realistic. The realistic options at the time were Campbell, Babers, Rhule, Calhoun, Taggert, etc. Herman or any other big name coaches just wasn't happening. I admit at the time I liked the Odom hire because I thought he would continue what Pinkel built. Looks like I was wrong. So what other realistic option would you have hired?
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:20 pm to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
In hindsight? Taggert.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:34 pm to TigerCruise
Taggart and other proven HCs weren’t interested due to the protests.
Mizzou had Dykes, Wells, Calhoun and BO interested.
Mizzou had Dykes, Wells, Calhoun and BO interested.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:39 am to surgicalvenom
Mizzou was a toxic dump at the time of the hire. We were not going to get any hyped coordinator who had any belief they were headed to better things. We were going to attract coaches on the way down and HCs that success at the lowest level. It's true Mack Rhodes had one foot out the door, but see my first sentence and rule number one is to run from toxic dumps, don't play in them. BO was the only coach in play who made any sense. Wanted by Memphis, a continuation of GP's progress, either a diamond in the rough or a temporary coach to get us away from the dumpster fire, (and cheap too). He turned out to be worst case scenario, and now were 2 years removed from CS1950 and a new coach will have a chance to mold this team.
Agree with all of your last sentence, but an exhaustive search by Rhodes would have yielded the same results or marginally better except that guy would have had an expensive buyout.
Agree with all of your last sentence, but an exhaustive search by Rhodes would have yielded the same results or marginally better except that guy would have had an expensive buyout.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:46 am to wubilli
Yes because a kid getting caught with Mushrooms is somehow on the staff.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:23 am to kilo
I remember a really smart guy making a thread about how similar BO and KA are last February
Posted on 10/4/17 at 5:19 pm to TigerTalker16
They still aren't at all similar, even if BO continues to fail.
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