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re: OK, so the offense is truly bad

Posted on 9/26/15 at 11:43 pm to
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/26/15 at 11:43 pm to
Mauk says his shoulder is "banged up".

WTF are we doing?
Posted by Coach P
SEMO
Member since Oct 2013
940 posts
Posted on 9/26/15 at 11:43 pm to
He made the easy throws. The issue is he missed multiple throws which would of ended up in points. It's obvious that this isn't changing. Almost all of Locks drives have moved the ball. There will be bumps but let the kid have his shot. We know the offense with Mauk will score around 14 points, what can lock do?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125001 posts
Posted on 9/26/15 at 11:45 pm to
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thus spoke Pankel. gotta keep playing Mauk because he's our "best chance"..


This shite is inexcusable. Front to back.

I do think it's telling that Pinkel feels this team's ceiling is a bowl game.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125001 posts
Posted on 9/26/15 at 11:48 pm to
quote:

Read carefully...ONE RUSHING TOUCHDOWN in FOUR GAMES. ONE! That's SEMO, Ark State, UConn and now UK. ONE TD by rushing. Frickin' ONE!


Yeah. When you can't score on the ground or in the air, it becomes a problem.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 9/26/15 at 11:53 pm to
I've always abided by the 4-5 year rule with Missouri.

We're good for one year and decent for 4-5 years, then we're good again based on that one year, and the recruiting bump.

I'm gonna stand by my rule, even though there has been a ripple in the otherwise normal wave of expected outcomes.

And that ripple might be what gets us over the hump later on.

That being said, my theory holds true, we're facing what 2012 got us. Injuries or not, it cost us.

2013 and 2014 is the greatest coaching job in Missouri history, because after 2012, this program could have been left for dead. Like back to the 90's dead.

The move to the SEC is a disaster without 13-14.

This bottom will suck, but we have to ride out the storm as the bottom wave has become better and better for us.

It's imperative that we finish no worse than 7-5 though.

7-5 should be the adjusted bottom for this program going forward.
This post was edited on 9/26/15 at 11:57 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125001 posts
Posted on 9/26/15 at 11:54 pm to
I agree. When you have 3 rent a wins, you should be able to get to 7 wins.
Posted by countrygrammar
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
394 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 12:01 am to
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Read carefully...ONE RUSHING TOUCHDOWN in FOUR GAMES. ONE! That's SEMO, Ark State, UConn and now UK. ONE TD by rushing. Frickin' ONE!


We have a lot of issues running game included. Scheme and strong QB play can mask a lot of our issues. There are a lot of spread teams who lack true running games but are still putting up points.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 12:15 am to
I'm not one to go full retard, but I'll be honest.

Firing Henson crossed my mind tonight.

We moved outside the program for Odom, sure he's a Mizzou guy but he's not a GP robot.

Why not do the same with OC?

The only thing keeping me from that is the fact that when Lock comes in everything changes.

I want to see Lock for one full game, just one.

I'm willing to bet the team does to.

We're looking at a tale of two teams folks, and GP doesn't want to upset the fricking turnip cart that he built.

This post was edited on 9/27/15 at 12:19 am
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 12:32 am to
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Lock hits open receivers in the fricking face mask or he puts it in a window.
Sometimes, but his medium and long throws are high floaters and frequently under thrown. Makes me wonder about his arm strength. He should have several more interceptions but the defenders keep dropping them. On the other hand his screens which should be soft are like bullets.

I hope he is the future but he's no Chase Danial right now.

Mauk is just a dumpster fire
Posted by 50CalMG
The Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2012
476 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 12:49 am to
quote:

we're not playing in a meaningful bowl this year.


I don't see us playing in a bowl at all. Where in our schedule are we going to get 3 more wins without an offense?
Posted by countrygrammar
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
394 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 12:51 am to
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Makes me wonder about his arm strength.


Seriously?

That deep comeback from the opposite hash should tell you all about his arm strength.

I think their is some expectation that Lock or Mauk for that matter should be perfect. It is impossible to be perfect in this game. QB's will not make perfect throws on every drop back.

Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 12:57 am to
Yeah, arm strength.

Lol.

It's all about timing and touch. Lock is trying to be perfect on those end zone throws.

He's like watching CMart when he was young, trying to put it somewhere no one else ever would and the results are poor.

He's overthinking it.

When he figures out that that pass is no different that an out at the 50, he'll be a QB.

We just have to wait for that moment.

In my mind, he hits that TD against UCONN, and tonight, we know he's there.

He needs to learn his finishing toss. He'll get there.



Posted by countrygrammar
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
394 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 1:12 am to
And for him to realize that it takes time...

Lock basically comes off the bench cold with no true self created momentum. In the 2nd quarter he is already behind the sticks and normally either tired or behind on the scoreboard. In addition he basically knows he has only 1 series with the possibility of 2nd to create opportunities for the team and that additional pressure can't help either.

It is almost unfair for both QB's to be put in this situation. Lock only gets one series and unlike every other QB in America we have this unrealistic expectation that he has to be perfect and score TD's on each one of his drives. Mauk then has to deal with the obviously talented Lock showing so much potential and that is creating opportunities for a controversy.

Gary Pinkel makes $4 million dollars a year and through our black and gold goggles we coddle him because he has raised division banners. You are the CEO/President of this team, you are paid to make tough decisions which you feel benefits your team. Either stick with Mauk or just do it already and make Lock the starter and live with it.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 1:28 am to
This is all true.

I just know that when Lock walks on the field, I perk up and salivate.

I didn't do that with Daniel, even though I was completely frustrated with how they were using Brad Smith in 2005.

Looking back, GP has pissed me off more than he's won my heart.

What a strange coach, I appreciate everything, I really do, but man, is he one stubborn Don James loving mother fricker.

I get why he believes in everything, he watched him build a natty in Washington. That's saying something.

But Don James would probably say frick the process and throw Lock in there at this point. Tell him it's a pass or fail grade and let Mauk ride the pine.

We're no better than 7-5 right now, I'd deal with 6-6 if it meant Lock got his dick wet.
This post was edited on 9/27/15 at 1:29 am
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
22144 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 7:44 am to
quote:

"we're playing to get to a (6win) bowl game"..

thus spoke Pankel.

gotta keep playing Mauk because he's our "best chance"..


Where did you hear / see / read this?

His post-game press conference?
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
22144 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 7:57 am to
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In 2013 TJ Moe was asked to describe the difference between Mauk and Franklin. He articulated that catching the ball was different coming from Mauk, it had a different trajectory as it approached the wideouts.

I think that is part of the problem. He doesn't throw a very catchable ball.


Bingo. Receivers need the hands of a gecko and the catch radius of an orangutan.

He can't even throw a bubble screen to get the WR moving with forward momentum.

Lock puts balls in the radius of a frisbee. Mauk puts them in the radius of hula-hoop.

It's over and done. Time to move on.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 8:12 am to
His career completion % is barely over 50%. It's nearly impossible to sustain drives that way.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:12 am to
Look guys. I was totally against throwing Lock to the dogs this year. Still there is a stitch of me that still believes it's way too soon to put him in there as a starter. I was relying and hoping Mauk would suddenly show up. He doesn;t have the supporting cast to do this right now. It's coming, just not here yet.

But just like a tuned engine, one bad plug and it runs like shite. So what do you do? You change the plug or plugs. I think or am convinced at this point, Mauk is a bad plug. Clearly Lock is more talented. You could see it in Mauks expression on the sideline last night watching Lock carve up the UK secondary. He knows. There are other aspects of the offense that need improvement, but you have to make a change somewhere to improve the rest. When you can make the throws, others see it. It builds confidence in the rest of the players. Would Lock make mistakes? Sure, he's a freshman. But the more he does it, the more he learns the more confident he will get and the more he will take the offense over. I can accept some mistakes from a freshman. But not a JR. QB that's been there and knows not to make a throw but does it anyway. It just creates frustration among his teammates.

Switch a QB is a start. Then see where it goes. Tweak the offense from that point. A change would also make it perfectly clear, if you don't perform, you'll be replaced, win lose or draw you won't play. It's motivation to improve.

Yeh I'm still looking at this team to take the EAST again. I think they can still do it.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:55 am to
There's no way we have a shot to win the East. We're looking at a team that can't move the ball with any consistency because the opponents don't respect the pass so the running lanes are nonexistent...even the qb runs for Mauk.

Time to play Lock. Even with Mauk playing I see us at around 5th in the East. Truly a sad sight.
Posted by ZouDerrty
Dallas,TX
Member since Jul 2012
250 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 12:01 pm to
Mauk hasn't matured at all as a QB. He got lucky with that pic 6 call and the dropped pics in the red zone. Same story different week.
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