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Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:45 pm to reedus23
Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:45 pm to reedus23
Yeah no ones saying it’s a good look but it’s against the 12th ranked team in the country with the best defensive player in maybe the country. Our offense the year before Odom went weeks without scoring a touchdown.
This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 9:46 pm
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Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:47 pm to wubilli
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It’s amazing that 4-4 with 2 losses on the final play of the game means a guy can’t coach.
Seriously? Did you not watch the games? This team is undisciplined and that's on the coach. This team doesn't know how to finish a game and that's on the coach. The team didn't get a 1st down the entire 2nd half and that's on the coach. Passing on an obvious run down is on the coach. I can keep going.
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I think he ends up being a very successful P5 coach, just not at Mizzou. Too much of the fan base turned on him after his first season.
bullshite. Most were willing to bring him back next year until this team shite the bed. I think most understand he will come back if he wins 7 or 8 or maybe even 6 games. They may not like it but to say too much turned on him after his first year is bullshite.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:29 pm to the808bass
I see a coach and team that’s improving. If they continue to improve throughout the rest of the season then bring him back.
Once the defense gets more experienced it will improve. The game plan against Kentucky, other than a couple plays on the final drive was really good. And only gave up 3 points before the final drive.
Once the defense gets more experienced it will improve. The game plan against Kentucky, other than a couple plays on the final drive was really good. And only gave up 3 points before the final drive.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:37 pm to wubilli
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Once the defense gets more experienced it will improve.
Beckner SR
Palmore SR
Turner SO
Williams RS So
Lee RS SR
Garrett JR
Hall SR
Holmes RS So
Acy Jr
Hilton Sr
Gillespie So
Where are we getting more experienced? If you’re seriously suggesting that we’re going to see a new secondary based on their experience gained in the first eight games, I’m going to laugh.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:55 pm to wubilli
If he get's canned no way he get's hired to another P5 HC job.
None.
NO one is waiting to see if he get's cut loose.
He will have no problem finding a DC gig, or maybe even a group of five HC job. Which is where he belongs right now. He is 5-10 years out from a P5 HC job - if he makes it.
This cheap true son experiment on a guy with a pretty good year as a group of five DC isn't working out much better than the cheap true son experiment on a guy with a pretty good year in D2 basketball.
None.
NO one is waiting to see if he get's cut loose.
He will have no problem finding a DC gig, or maybe even a group of five HC job. Which is where he belongs right now. He is 5-10 years out from a P5 HC job - if he makes it.
This cheap true son experiment on a guy with a pretty good year as a group of five DC isn't working out much better than the cheap true son experiment on a guy with a pretty good year in D2 basketball.
This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:57 pm to the808bass
Gillespie’s mistakes get fewer each game. Same can be said for Acy, Holmes and Bledsoe.
So yes as they gain experience they are getting better. Can say the same about the DE group.
Palmore and Elliot have played almost the exact number of reps at DT.
Walters is also getting better with his gameplans.
So yes as they gain experience they are getting better. Can say the same about the DE group.
Palmore and Elliot have played almost the exact number of reps at DT.
Walters is also getting better with his gameplans.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:00 pm to MIZ_COU
the national perspective is that 6-6 or 7-5 isn’t something that you fire a coach for at Mizzou. Especially if that’s in 2 of the first 3 years on the job.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:08 pm to wubilli
A) I don't give a shite.
B) You are totally making that up
C) You are totally pulling that our of your arse.
You fire a coach if you think you can do better, which is based on who's available that will come. Sterk is the best AD we've had in a long time. Whatever he decides I'll go with it since he knows (much) more about what is going on. But I have a feeling if he gets someone he likes on the line Barry is gone
B) You are totally making that up
C) You are totally pulling that our of your arse.
You fire a coach if you think you can do better, which is based on who's available that will come. Sterk is the best AD we've had in a long time. Whatever he decides I'll go with it since he knows (much) more about what is going on. But I have a feeling if he gets someone he likes on the line Barry is gone
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 9:58 am
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:08 pm to reedus23
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Bull shite. Most were willing to bring him back next year until this team shite the bed. I think most understand he will come back if he wins 7 or 8 or maybe even 6 games. They may not like it but to say too much turned on him after his first year is bull shite.
That is not true! I was here and witnessed the whole thing. Negative vibes and the OC hire and Heupel bolted are still attacking that. Heupel is worst than the current OC. He is in his first year. Give him time to evaluate for next year and make adjustments and so forth. Got to give the whole coaching staffs time to build the program. Kentucky went 7-5 3 years I think and why was he not fired in his 4th year? Got to follow same way Kentucky is doing right now. Next year will be make or break for Barry Odom if he goes 7-5 or better this year. If same bone head mistakes then he should be fired next year and show no improvements from the year before.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:09 pm to wubilli
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I see a coach and team that’s improving. If they continue to improve throughout the rest of the season then bring him back.
Ummm, how is no first downs in a half an improvement. Pretty sure they didn't have a half of -4 first downs that they improved from.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:16 pm to reedus23
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Ummm, how is no first downs in a half an improvement. Pretty sure they didn't have a half of -4 first downs that they improved from.
Did you know Kentucky defense is that good? Did same to A&M and others? Kentucky fans were saying that too. Aren't they rank 12 at the time they played Missouri?
Missouri lost 3 games to top 12 teams!
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:22 pm to Mizsioux
I’ll leave at it this.
Anytime an opposing coach says to the national media, “I don’t know how we won this game” on two separate weekends, it’s time to re-evaluate some things.
You and Lefty keep beating on this drum of learning but our opposition is literally telling us, I don’t know how your teams and coaches are allowing 4% in game win probabilities to hit. We are fighting over a coach who has never won an SEC game before November and can only beat losing teams in year 3.
Anytime an opposing coach says to the national media, “I don’t know how we won this game” on two separate weekends, it’s time to re-evaluate some things.
You and Lefty keep beating on this drum of learning but our opposition is literally telling us, I don’t know how your teams and coaches are allowing 4% in game win probabilities to hit. We are fighting over a coach who has never won an SEC game before November and can only beat losing teams in year 3.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:36 pm to reedus23
This might be the wrong spot to post this, but I think you guys win Saturday. Our run D isn’t amazing and you have 3 backs that are more than capable and if you go back to the offense of let Lock throw it as far as he can, then you’ll beat our very young CBs every time.
You’ve seen our offense through Franks. It’s not wonderful.
You’ve seen our offense through Franks. It’s not wonderful.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:37 pm to countrygrammar
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You and Lefty keep beating on this drum of learning but our opposition is literally telling us, I don’t know how your teams and coaches are allowing 4% in game win probabilities to hit. We are fighting over a coach who has never won an SEC game before November and can only beat losing teams in year 3.
Kentucky went 7-5 been a coach for 5 years and they did not fired him and gave him more time to build his program. I am seeing it now. Kentucky did the program the right way. Missouri need to do the same. I would give Barry Odom 1 more chance next year and if he does not improve from the year before then he deserve to be fired next year. Got to give the head coach a chance. or else no one would want to touch Missouri if they fired a head coach for playing close games and playing better than last year. That is what I am talking about making some progress. If there is no progress then I would understand but this year I saw progress. Played the same teams from a year ago and did a better job but not quite get the win. Next year will tell if Odom can get the job done or not. That is why you give a coach another year. Give Odom a fair chance. That is all I am saying. He never really got that chance when DC failed big time in his first year and half way through the second year. Then OC bolt and was not very good against rank teams and failed to show up to the bowl game and that hurt Missouri and recruiting. Got to give Odom time to get the coaching to stick around long enough to build an identity. Next year would be a good idea to see if he can do it or not. That would be fair. No excuses after that. OC not given enough time to adjust. The off season would be good to see what the SEC was like and make adjustments for the following year and if that fail then it is over for Odom. That would be the right way to do this. I know another year but it is a must if team still have fight and goes 7-5 or 8-4 this year.
This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:41 pm to TigerTalker16
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Also, Arkansas isn't in as bad shape as you think they are. Unlike us, they're getting better each week. Chad Morris is also killing it in recruiting. Odom wouldn't sniff half the talent their picking up this recruiting season because well, he sucks.
BUT FIRST YEAR COACHES CANT CROOT AT A MIDDLE OF THE PACK SCHOOL, RIGHT GUYS??
In recruiting, Odom got 1 out of the top 9 players in Missouri last year and one the field, he continues to be abysmal against any teams with a pulse, failing to close out games. Mizzou fans have gotten zero wins to be proud of and people aren't going to the games anymore now. Pathetic.
The only SEC school that should be seriously concerned about it's future in football is us. We fricked up the most important higher in Mizzou football history, and now Pinkel's hard work to put this program on the map is fading away. It's depressing. We frick up this next higher, and we're on our way back to the 80's
Except for the typo of "hire" I agree in totality as I have for 2yrs, especially appreciating the jab at those who have in essence given up that we could ever have at a minimum above average recruiting classes. - If you can't recruit you sure best be able to coach up and visa versa. If you cannot excel in at least one of the 2, You best be gone.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:46 pm to muinsandiegp
What if Missouri beat Arky again this year? Is that not good enough? Many do not care and still want Odom fired.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 3:56 am to wubilli
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Mizzou also has a roster coming back next season that should be a bowl team at minimum.
This team did too. And if they make a bowl it will be at minimum.
I heard TJ Moe yesterday trying to defend Odom's clock manangement. It's indefensible. Kentucky in Year Three was a repeat of Georgia Year One. For a coach who I am sure demands improvement and accountability out of others to hear him deflect the blame on 3rd and 2 is pathetic.
Maybe Odom should worry about improving as a game coach instead of trying to justify getting more time by sending subliminal messages through the media.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:06 am to TrueLefty
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What if Missouri beat Arky again this year? Is that not good enough? Many do not care and still want Odom fired.
Has anyone ever told you you have a very Tennessee25 posting style?
Posted on 10/31/18 at 6:50 am to TrueLefty
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Kentucky went 7-5 been a coach for 5 years and they did not fired him and gave him more time to build his program. I am seeing it now. Kentucky did the program the right way
Except Mark Stoops is by far a better recruiter than him. Remember, UK hired him from a top 5 program at the time. We hired Barry Odom from Memphis. What’s Mark Stoops record against teams with a winning record? Where do Mark Stoops recruiting classes rank compared to Odom’s? Has Mark Stoops botched two games in the final minutes in the same season and made bone headed play calls like an onside kick at the beginning of the USC game that gave USC the momentum and ultimately cost us the game? Also, Mark Stoops is 3-0 against Odom. There’s no comparison between Mark Stoops and Odom.
It blows my mind Mizzou fans are still reaching to defend Odom. What more does he have to do to prove he’s not the guy?
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 7:02 am
Posted on 10/31/18 at 7:32 am to TigerTalker16
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