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If you had mulligans, how many of the players would you take again?

Posted on 9/17/17 at 9:53 pm
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 9/17/17 at 9:53 pm
Crockett
Simms
Adams
Howell
Pendleton
Beckner
Fatoney
Garrett - Though I'd hope he's not a starter

I truly think I'd take a risk with every other player that the player brought in instead would be better. Reese and Blanton might be able to be added to that list.

Who would you absolutely bring back and not take a chance with a mulligan? Anyone? And forget the obvious like BO. Just trying to get a gauge of what kind of talent might actually be on the team.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:32 pm to
No linebackers

Sherrils looked like he still cared if they won or lost when no one else on the defense did, so maybe him.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:46 pm to
Well Crockett and the freshman all american for sure.
I like Garrett's effort I'd take him off the bench. and he's still young.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 7:54 am to
I think there's more than that. Remember the GP model for success. Redshirt year 1, special teams snaps year 2, part time player year 3, starter level player in years 4-5.

There's just not many players now that were allowed to go that route.

I would add Brandon and Whiteside to players I would keep. I also would like to see more of Byers, Turner, Williams, Anderson, Brooks, Miller and Bledsoe before writing them off.

On offense I would take Hall, Johnson, Floyd, Mason, Albert O and Rountree. Teach receivers to actually run routes and they could be really good.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:44 pm to
Fair enough about freshmen. Give them a chance.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 6:49 am to
I'd rather get mulligans on the 11 5.7/5.8 rated players from the 2013-2015 classes that left before their eligibility expired.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:29 am to
The Mizzou "Second Stringers", no longer the Tigers.

Who is a difference makers on D? TBJ...okay. Then a handful of so-so's that should be second string at best. Then the remaining waste (LBs) that we took from lower divisions.

Besides TEs and Crockett, the rest of our O should be playing second string at best.

STs - Fatoney.

Coaches - take Elerbee...that is it. They're a bunch of second stringers that attract second stringers.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:31 am
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3475 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:59 am to
I can't believe that all our players are horrible athletes. We may not have any future NFL guys, but I think the main problem is that they don't know what the frick to do. Which stands to reason because their coaches don't know what the frick to do.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25182 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:08 pm to
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I can't believe that all our players are horrible athletes. We may not have any future NFL guys, but I think the main problem is that they don't know what the frick to do. Which stands to reason because their coaches don't know what the frick to do.




Agreed, I think that is what is causing the problem for y'all right now. Players just seem lost out on the field. "A QB can either give the ball or keep it on a read option? Inconceivable!" Trust me, after the last two years of watching Arkansas play I know the look of a disorganized defense that doesn't have a clue of what is going on.

The defensive players aren't sure what they should be doing and the super hurry up offense y'all are running has a tendency to dump them back on the field right away without a chance to catch their breath or get coached up on the sideline.

On offense sometimes the push to go right now means that your players aren't in the right position or are trying to figure out exactly what it is they are supposed to do on the play.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

I'd rather get mulligans on the 11 5.7/5.8 rated players from the 2013-2015 classes that left before their eligibility expired.



That's a whole another issue.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

I can't believe that all our players are horrible athletes. We may not have any future NFL guys, but I think the main problem is that they don't know what the frick to do. Which stands to reason because their coaches don't know what the frick to do.



It's not just lack of talent that would make me prefer to take a flyer on others. In some cases it's having a low football IQ. Sometimes it's because they're quitters or have no fire. In some instances, it is due to lack of talent.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 7:27 pm to
Mizzou has had to take athletes and try to turn them into football players. Some years it works, some it doesn't.

I still believe attrition from the early SEC classes is partly responsible for this team, many guys are playing that wouldn't on most Mizzou teams of the last decade.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:12 pm to
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That's a whole another issue.


Not when your program is dependent on those guys being major contributors in years 3 and 4 on campus.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:44 pm to
I get that and don't disagree but who you would like to be able to go back in time and change the situation so that they would still be here in years 3 and 4 is different than which, of the current roster, would you keep if you had a do over. Maybe you are saying you would keep every single player on the roster along with keeping those that we lost with the assumption that the current guys would then be backups.
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