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Posted on 1/19/22 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 1/19/22 at 1:26 pm
About the transfer portal. These G5 programs have to develop 2 star and no star talent. And when a OL learns technique and gains weight or a WR developes his route running etc, it's off to a P5 program. Makes it harder on those programs, and it will hasten the departures of talented G5 coaches.
I get it, a kid needs to be in control of his destiny. And I'm all for that. But it would suck to develop a diamond only to watch him play his best years for another program. Just my 2 cents.
I get it, a kid needs to be in control of his destiny. And I'm all for that. But it would suck to develop a diamond only to watch him play his best years for another program. Just my 2 cents.
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 1:31 pm to surgicalvenom
I'm not a fan of that aspect either.
Alas, when there's money involved, loyalty is dead in today's world.
Alas, when there's money involved, loyalty is dead in today's world.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 1:46 pm to surgicalvenom
Yeah. That’s a really ugly part of it.
It’s going to make the imbalance of talent worse in the long run. The blue bloods can use even P5 schools as their farm teams.
It’s going to make the imbalance of talent worse in the long run. The blue bloods can use even P5 schools as their farm teams.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 1:47 pm to the808bass
We saw this year what NIL money could do. Texas A&M had the best recruiting class of all time.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 1:55 pm to surgicalvenom
The other side of that coin sucks as well. Some of these younger guys with no experience are going to get "recruited over" through the portal. It'll be the safer choice to go out and get an experienced player at a position of need, instead of playing your younger guys in games. In turn, that'll just lead to more transfers from guys that haven't been given opportunity, or what they view as an opportunity anyway.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:18 pm to Faurot fodder
That's true. The 2 kids we took in 2020 at LB from Florida and NC. Do they stay as 2 transfers come from NC and Wyoming? And I gotta guess some safeties will be on the move.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:26 pm to surgicalvenom
Good examples. Taking transfers always leads to other guys transfer out. It comes down to trusting your own talent evaluation skills as a coach, instead of simply taking the safest route.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 5:58 pm to surgicalvenom
We are all farm clubs for blue bloods now.
Getting rid of the free transfer rule would mitigate this. If Mizzou can offer x NIL, when a player has to sit out a year to get 1.8x he can reason better to get 2 years of x NIL and build up more resume for the NFL.
Getting rid of the free transfer rule would mitigate this. If Mizzou can offer x NIL, when a player has to sit out a year to get 1.8x he can reason better to get 2 years of x NIL and build up more resume for the NFL.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:22 pm to deputyfife
It could possibly suck but this will obviously shake out in a few years to something more stable.
We could be a farm club, but it goes both ways. The Alabamas can't play everyone on their roster. It isn't much different than it was before NIL. This just takes out the secrecy of the money deals and it could help teams that didn't want to dirty their hands too much that have access to money. I also feel like NIL deals will start to have term contracts in them forcing players to stay or forfeit previous money, but maybe not. I feel like long term this is a net benefit for Mizzou.
We could be a farm club, but it goes both ways. The Alabamas can't play everyone on their roster. It isn't much different than it was before NIL. This just takes out the secrecy of the money deals and it could help teams that didn't want to dirty their hands too much that have access to money. I also feel like NIL deals will start to have term contracts in them forcing players to stay or forfeit previous money, but maybe not. I feel like long term this is a net benefit for Mizzou.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:41 pm to deputyfife
A player earns 1 point for everytime he plays in a quarter of football. If he accrues 20 points (meaning 20 quarter appearances) he is no longer eligible for a free transfer. He can transfer but must sit out a year. Only grads would be exempt. Maybe this would keep starters where they are and prevent bluebloods from filling their needs with instant proven starters from the transfer portal.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:17 pm to zatetic
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It could possibly suck but this will obviously shake out in a few years to something more stable.
Don’t you only get one freebie transfer?
Posted on 1/20/22 at 5:41 am to surgicalvenom
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transfer portal
MODERN DAY SLAVERY...figured I'd beat the rush on that one.
Transferring is colleges free agency and free agency killed pro sports. I get that we're all free agents but it's hard to cheer for a guy that may be on your rivals roster in a year or less.
Props to Curt Flood for creating free agency; killed his own career for everyone that came after him and no one knows his name.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 10:41 am to Wtodd
Just FYI, I do remember Curt Flood, my dad named me after him. LOL.
Anyway, how does Oklahoma State win the Fiesta Bowl, get ranked #7, and still lose starters to the portal. Their all big 12 db just entered. Is this all chasing money? ??
Anyway, how does Oklahoma State win the Fiesta Bowl, get ranked #7, and still lose starters to the portal. Their all big 12 db just entered. Is this all chasing money? ??
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Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:45 pm to surgicalvenom
Look at ULL
They lost their coach and pretty much every starter off the team. Hopefully we can help finish them off with the LB
They lost their coach and pretty much every starter off the team. Hopefully we can help finish them off with the LB
Posted on 1/20/22 at 4:59 pm to Wtodd
Free market and capitalism at work. If they can make more money transferring, they should. I hate it and also think it will ruin college sports but as long as we claim to be a free market and capitalistic society, I don’t know how you can tell athletes those concepts don’t apply to them
Posted on 1/20/22 at 5:05 pm to reedus23
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Free market and capitalism at work. If they can make more money transferring, they should. I hate it and also think it will ruin college sports but as long as we claim to be a free market and capitalistic society, I don’t know how you can tell athletes those concepts don’t apply to them
They don’t apply in any other sport.
Posted on 1/21/22 at 5:43 am to surgicalvenom
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Just FYI, I do remember Curt Flood, my dad named me after him
My comment was directed at those making bank off of free agency
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:34 am to JesusQuintana
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They don’t apply in any other sport.
yup. Sports are inherently the worst places for capitalism. It needs to be highly regulated so that the only differences are on the field. Otherwise it isn't about the game it becomes about everything off the field.
Posted on 1/21/22 at 7:12 pm to notsince98
But it’s also their livelihoods. And how do we decide when to make exceptions and who makes them? I think I’d have a different perspective if I knew my NIL was worth millions but I was being held back from making my riches because some guy that has probably already made his millions tells me I can’t.
And I tend to agree it needs to be regulated but that’s because I’m coming from a fans perspective.
And I tend to agree it needs to be regulated but that’s because I’m coming from a fans perspective.
Posted on 1/22/22 at 11:20 am to reedus23
Free markets are complex. What some of these players are giving up, such as the 4 year player who went on to sell life insurance making great money because they were well known and loved by the fanbase, that is gone. Long term effects are important, too.
If this were capitalism, the players and school would need to give some of that money to the taxpayers, since we funded the land, facilities, and even the university's existence and brand.
Maybe all of you are different, but if these players were playing on Local City's League X Mascot Name team, I wouldn't care near as much.
We have funded an asset that only costs money, and provides no income to us but a lot to a few entities. Not capitalism.
If this were capitalism, the players and school would need to give some of that money to the taxpayers, since we funded the land, facilities, and even the university's existence and brand.
Maybe all of you are different, but if these players were playing on Local City's League X Mascot Name team, I wouldn't care near as much.
We have funded an asset that only costs money, and provides no income to us but a lot to a few entities. Not capitalism.
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