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re: Honestly, if Mizzou hires Odom it will be an abortion of a decision
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:37 am to Mizzeaux
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:37 am to Mizzeaux
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Herman won a national championship
Wrong. Meyer won a national championship. Herman was a part of that, but not the sole reason. Don't get me wrong, I like Herman. He'll be a great coach one day. I don't understand why Mizzou can't target him.
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I can't even think of who Rhule worked for/was mentored
Doesn't matter. The guy is a proven winner.
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:41 am to mizzoukills
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I can't even think of who Rhule worked for/was mentored
Played for Paterno, also spent a year with Coughlin in the NFL. One of the few NFL coaches with more than 1 Super Bowl
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:41 am to mizzoukills
So then I'll ask you the same question I haven't gotten anyone to answer on either board.
Today you have two candidates.
2000 Gary Pinkel.
Or
2015 Matt Rhule.
Who do you hire?
Today you have two candidates.
2000 Gary Pinkel.
Or
2015 Matt Rhule.
Who do you hire?
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:42 am to mizzoukills
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Mizzou will take a step backwards if we hire a D Coordinator with zero head coaching experience.
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sort of like how we view Mark Richt
Richt had no head coaching experience when he was interviewed for the Missouri job and landed his gig with Georgia.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:42 am to mizzoukills
Sure it matters. It's not the defining mark, but it matters.
And I'm not sure that a .500 coaching record qualifies for the title "proven winner."
And I'm not sure that a .500 coaching record qualifies for the title "proven winner."
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:44 am to Mizzeaux
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Today you have two candidates.
2000 Gary Pinkel.
Or
2015 Matt Rhule.
Well, if Matt Rhule beats Houston this coming weekend and wins the AAC...he and Gary Pinkel would pretty much be neck and neck as far as candidates go.
Pinkel did very well at Mizzou. Rhule could do just as well or better.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:44 am to Mizzeaux
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Today you have two candidates.
2000 Gary Pinkel.
Or
2015 Matt Rhule.
Who do you hire?
Fedora
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:44 am to Mizzeaux
GP, he was an assistant on championship team. Also had about a 10 year run as a HC. With a few 10 win seasons. When the season was 11 games. And at a time with less parity.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:45 am to Aux Arc
He had 10 years as OC/QB coach at FSU. Yes. That's not head coaching experience.
But I would take long looks at any 10 year coordinator from a top 20 P5 program.
But I would take long looks at any 10 year coordinator from a top 20 P5 program.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:46 am to mizzoukills
1 year of success at Temple isn't near the success Pinkel had at Toledo.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:47 am to Aux Arc
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Richt had no head coaching experience when he was interviewed for the Missouri job and landed his gig with Georgia.
He spent the previous ten years at P5 Florida State under Bobby Bowden, seven of those as his OC.
You get me a coordinator like that and I'll be happy. A lot happier than this schmo at Temple coming in.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:47 am to wubilli
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he was an assistant on championship team
Yes he was. Yet, he never won a national championship at Mizzou nor a conference championship.
Herman was with Meyer last year when Ohio State won a national championship. Doesn't mean it's a foregone conclusion that Herman will win a national championship too.
Odom doesn't have anything to show other than a tenacity to "one day be a head coach" and a couple of top 25 ranked defenses (which like I've said before is impressive but not as impressive as solid head coaching experience).
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:48 am to mizzoukills
Upvoted for title of thread.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:49 am to the808bass
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1 year of success at Temple isn't near the success Pinkel had at Toledo.
Or equal the amount of on the job training he got from a NC winning head coach.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:51 am to the808bass
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1 year of success at Temple isn't near the success Pinkel had at Toledo.
Hold on a sec...if Rhule wins his conference this weeken, it took him 3 years to do that. I'd argue that Rhule winning it in 3 years at a shite school like Temple was just as successful as Pinkel taking 5 years to win his conference at Toledo.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:52 am to the808bass
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Upvoted for title of thread.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:52 am to mizzoukills
Winning a NC is difficult. I'd like our guy to have been someone that did it's right hand man.
Winning a college football NC is likely the hardest thing for a program to do the first time in all sports. Having a guy that's sat in the office for a few years with a guy that's done it means a lot to me.
A lot more than flipping Temple from the trash heap to the top of their division.
Winning a college football NC is likely the hardest thing for a program to do the first time in all sports. Having a guy that's sat in the office for a few years with a guy that's done it means a lot to me.
A lot more than flipping Temple from the trash heap to the top of their division.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:54 am to Mizzeaux
If Rhule hadn't leaked his name to the press, would there be a single person clamoring for him?
This really turned into the lesser of two evils quickly. Rhule needs to take his job at Maryland and let our fans get back to where they need to be. Thinking realistically.
This really turned into the lesser of two evils quickly. Rhule needs to take his job at Maryland and let our fans get back to where they need to be. Thinking realistically.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:54 am to Mizzeaux
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Winning a NC is difficult. I'd like our guy to have been someone that did it's right hand man.
Just like Pinkel, huh?
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Winning a college football NC is likely the hardest thing for a program to do the first time in all sports.
I agree because it takes a bit of luck too.
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Having a guy that's sat in the office for a few years with a guy that's done it means a lot to me.
So you'd rather just rehire Pinkel, right?
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A lot more than flipping Temple from the trash heap to the top of their division
Well that's pretty damn impressive especially since Temple is beating teams like Memphis, Toledo, and potentially Houston this weekend.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:55 am to Mizzeaux
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If Rhule hadn't leaked his name to the press, would there be a single person clamoring for him?
Yes. And it would be justified too.
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Thinking realistically.
ugh...
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