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Posted on 10/16/15 at 7:26 am to
Posted by zou_keeper
St Louis
Member since Jan 2012
1571 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 7:26 am to
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I understand it from the Cubs side, they suck and would be envious of the success of the Cards. The Cards though? I don't get it. Some say it's the inferiority complex St. Louis has for Chicago in general. Maybe that's it.



I will say this; growing up in Chicago and now living in St Louis, cards fans make a much bigger deal of the rivalry than Cubs fans in Chicago. I personally care about the rivalry more now since I live in st louis. In Chicago people may not like the cardinals, but it is not the same hate that the cardinals fans have the Cubs. I think the inferiority complex idea might be on to something. No cards fan would ever admit that and will argue to their death... so there is really no point. Just my 2 cents. Go Cubs!

Posted by zou_keeper
St Louis
Member since Jan 2012
1571 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 7:29 am to
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Already hearing "life long Cubs fans" show up out of nowhere when just a month ago they couldn't care less about MLB


dude cards have more sidewalk fans than most professional sports teams. Just because you own a cardinals jersey doesn't make you a die hard.
Posted by Stlox
Maryland Heights, MO
Member since Jul 2013
795 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 7:50 am to
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I will say this; growing up in Chicago and now living in St Louis, cards fans make a much bigger deal of the rivalry than Cubs fans in Chicago.


It isn't about St. Louis fans making a big deal, it's about Chicago fans choosing to ignore it.

I will say this; growing up in Kansas City and now living in St. Louis, I know all about cities trying to ignore the smaller one of the two.

Chicago has always ignored St. Louis, and the fact that they routinely get beat by the St. Louis team is an even bigger reason to ignore.

Chicago has always seen St. Louis as Milwaukee without a lake shore breeze. They prefer comparing them to New York. All at the same time St. Louis ignores KC, and prefers comparing to Chicago.

If the rivalry was KC/St. Louis and KC was routinely beating St. Louis, I assure you St. Louis would be ignore it too.

That might actually happen, if the Rams leave and the Raiders move here.
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 8:00 am
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17339 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 10:21 am to
Because I was responding to two separate posters.And I didn't see the double post until I had already posted the last message.Or possibly I wasn't aware the forum police monitored this board.

Thanks for attempting to contribute to the discussion at hand though.Better luck next time.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17339 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 10:25 am to
Please come back when you put the bong down.That must be some good shite Stoned Tiger gave you.
Posted by zou_keeper
St Louis
Member since Jan 2012
1571 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 10:58 am to
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Please come back when you put the bong down.That must be some good shite Stoned Tiger gave you.


You are extremely delusional if you really cannot recognize the number of sidewalk fans in st louis.
Posted by spytiger
Right Behind You
Member since Aug 2015
568 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:33 am to
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The same could be said about the MU-kU rivalry. You can apply the same arguments to support the Beakers.


lol no you can't. Stop lying. Don't even try.

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The fact is, it is a rivalry. A strong one, and an old one.


I guess that's it. Just been around for a long time, no other logical reason for it. Until this year it's pretty much been a whole bunch of nothing for over half a century.
Posted by Stlox
Maryland Heights, MO
Member since Jul 2013
795 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:45 pm to
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The same could be said about the MU-kU rivalry. You can apply the same arguments to support the Beakers.
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lol no you can't. Stop lying. Don't even try.


Nope. You're saying Cardinals fans should ignore the rivalry, show sympathy and root for the Cubs.

There is absolutely no difference to telling a Missouri fan they should ignore the rivalry, show sympathy and root for the beakers.

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The fact is, it is a rivalry. A strong one, and an old one.
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I guess that's it. Just been around for a long time, no other logical reason for it. Until this year it's pretty much been a whole bunch of nothing for over half a century.


It's passed the test of time. It is what fans do. That is the logical reason. Otherwise you're a sidewalk fan.
How's the view from the sidewalk?
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:05 pm to
It's a rivalry to be sure, however it's a friendly one. Sure, Chicago folks turn their noses down at the city of STL , (honestly, who wouldn't), but if you think they don't hate the team go over to Northside Baseball sometime and check out the 2011 WS thread.

I've been to Wrigley, partied in Wrigleyville, it was fun. No real ill will. Of course that was the late 90s, both teams sucked.

It was pretty heated from 2003-2008, and I think it will amp up again after this year. There will be some seriously butt slaved cards fans next year, and the Cubs will have the juice of beating us in the NLDS.

If this series had been the NLCS, I would be overly distraught, but losing in the first round, even to the Cubs doesn't do it for me.

It's a good rivalry, and it will get more press going forward as both teams should be pretty good for the foreseeable future.

The only problem I have with the Cubs winning it all will be the "Red Sox Effect". It's a very real, very annoying thing. Luckily, I don't watch ESPN anymore, and MLB Network is pretty unbiased in their coverage so it probably wouldn't be quite as bad as 2004.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:07 pm to
I will never root for the Cubs because they have the worst fans in baseball. Talk about sidewalk fans, every a-hole in the country is a Cubs fan now because of how terrible their franchise is. It's become a hipster movement to root for the Cubs and drink Old Style, one of the shittiest beers every produced, for the simple fact that it makes you a "rebel". It's easy to root for the Yankees or the Cardinals, but when you root for the Cubs, that makes you a real fan!!!

What a load of shite, I hope the Cubs get swept and all their fans get dysentery.
Posted by spytiger
Right Behind You
Member since Aug 2015
568 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:22 pm to
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Nope. You're saying Cardinals fans should ignore the rivalry, show sympathy and root for the Cubs.

There is absolutely no difference to telling a Missouri fan they should ignore the rivalry, show sympathy and root for the beakers.


Never said that, not even once. I don't care who Cards fans root for. I find it interesting they "hate" a team that's been so pathetic in nearly everyone's living memory.
Posted by spytiger
Right Behind You
Member since Aug 2015
568 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:23 pm to
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The only problem I have with the Cubs winning it all will be the "Red Sox Effect". It's a very real, very annoying thing. Luckily, I don't watch ESPN anymore, and MLB Network is pretty unbiased in their coverage so it probably wouldn't be quite as bad as 2004.


Oh yeah, if it happens it will be epic. ESPN or not.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17339 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:16 pm to
A Cubs fan calling anyone delusional is hilarious.Many Cubs "fans" care more about getting wasted at the stadium than the actual game.But go ahead and pretend they don't.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13894 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:26 pm to
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The only problem I have with the Cubs winning it all will be the "Red Sox Effect". It's a very real, very annoying thing. Luckily, I don't watch ESPN anymore, and MLB Network is pretty unbiased in their coverage so it probably wouldn't be quite as bad as 2004.


I don't think any "real" Cubs fan (whatever that means) is hoping for that. It will be great if they win, but I'm not interested in meeting a new/bandwagon Cubs fan at all. If anything, we'll likely hate them more than anyone else would.

Could you imagine suffering through the 70s, 80s and 90s as a Mizzou fan, having hope for the future for the last fifteen years just to get kicked in the nuts, and in 2019 when the Tigers win the Playoff having to deal with some jerkoff talking about how "we" won because he watched the last six games of the season and picked up a Mizzou hat on fanatics.com? I'd punch them in the throat.

Same situation times ten for the Cubs since there's less teams and most of our entire lives have been spent as the butt of jokes for being Cub fans. frick anyone that's jumped on the wagon recently.
Posted by zou_keeper
St Louis
Member since Jan 2012
1571 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 8:16 am to
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I'm not interested in meeting a new/bandwagon Cubs fan at all. If anything, we'll likely hate them more than anyone else would.


this
Posted by spytiger
Right Behind You
Member since Aug 2015
568 posts
Posted on 10/17/15 at 1:32 pm to
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Same situation times ten for the Cubs since there's less teams and most of our entire lives have been spent as the butt of jokes for being Cub fans. frick anyone that's jumped on the wagon recently.

The Cubs are like Mizzou football. Any actual success is ancient dusty history.

That said, I don't really root for them. Would be interesting if they won it all this year. But I won't root for some NY team either.
Posted by Stlox
Maryland Heights, MO
Member since Jul 2013
795 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:28 pm to
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Never said that, not even once. I don't care who Cards fans root for. I find it interesting they "hate" a team that's been so pathetic in nearly everyone's living memory.


It's a rivalry. It is what it is. That's the way it's been and will be.

Went to Church today (yeah I do that), and at the end of Mass, the priest said, "With defeat there is always hope. Losing last weekend to a team that I'm not going to say in here. Go Mets, go American League."
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17339 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:37 pm to
Mets taking care of business.
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