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Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:25 pm to
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what bout Jacobson at UNI? dude has done wonders there


Yup. Gotta call him.

I understand reservations with Amaker.
Posted by JesusQuintana
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:26 pm to
Our players might need to be berated
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:26 pm to
Martin is a poor man's Huggins with fewer girlfriends on the road and without the alcoholism.
Posted by Literalist
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

what bout Jacobson at UNI? dude has done wonders there


Jacobson would be a great pick, but if I recall, he got a lonnnnng contract and still has 8 or so years to go. Not sure we'd spend that much to buy out his contract.

But I'll kick in the first 20 bucks toward it.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:51 pm to
It's long but it's not expensive.


and no that's what she said jokes

ETA it's actually more expensive than I thought. 8 years left, 400k base, 200k media fee(?), longevity fee, %50 buyout. Looks like close to 4 mil.
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 1:34 pm
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 1:52 pm to
He'd be cheaper on the back end than some of our other options and we don't really have to pay Kim to get out of our current coach.

You could probably hire Jacobson for around $1.8M easily.
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 2:09 pm to
If you believe Wiki...

"In the 2014-15 season, Jacobson led the Panthers to their highest ranking in school history (#10) in the AP and (#9) in the Coaches Poll. UNI also in that season achieved the most wins in the school's history with 31. After that season Jacobson, was given a 10-year extension with an average of $900,000 per year through 2024-25."

So, doubling his salary might well work...but would we buy the UNI contract?
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 2:11 pm
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 3:03 pm to
that would be awesome.

I kind of see him as having most of the upsides of Marshall without the huge price tag. Course I prob wrong. That's even if he has any interest.

but the contract (which is online) says if b4 May 2017 buyout is %50 of the remaining guarantee which is approx 900k * 8 * .5 = 3.6M


average SEC bball salary for coaches not named Calipari or Donovan is about 1.8M so you would think we would at least do that
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 3:10 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:26 pm to
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If Jacobson leaves UNI for another school before May 31, 2017, the Panthers would be owed 50 percent of whatever dollar amount remains on the contract. The buyout dips to 40 percent if Jacobson departs prior to May 31, 2019, and 30 percent prior to 2024.


It just depends on what the 50% is calculated off of. Base salary? Total compensation?

Could be as low as 1.6M if it's just the base salary, but even if it's the total amount then I'd have to imagine Sterk would not have a problem getting that kind of money from large boosters who are starved for a non shite basketball program.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

So, doubling his salary might well work...but would we buy the UNI contract?


If we think he's the right guy, I think we will.

We made a significant offer to Marshall. It was $3M+.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:06 pm to
I think there are better options than Jacobson.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:14 pm to
I do, too.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

It just depends on what the 50% is calculated off of. Base salary? Total compensation?
the exact language of the contract is 50% of the guaranteed amount, which includes the salary and fees, it pretty much averages out to 900k per year
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 7:30 pm
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:30 pm to
who do you have in mind?
Posted by JesusQuintana
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:39 pm to
The 900k also includes bonuses according to the article that I read. The base pay may be the only "guarantee" legally speaking. Or it could be something in the middle as well
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 8:27 pm to
Really depends on what Mizzou is willing to pay.

If Mizzou is willing to pay $4-5 million there are several proven coaches that could get. Guys like Marshall, Frank Martin, Cuonzo Martin

If it's $2-3 million my first call is Keatts he's a 2 time conference coach of the year. Also was the top assistant/recruiter for Louisville and their national championship team.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 12:23 am to
Cuonzo aint coming here. And he's not worth the money
Frank Martin has issues
Marshall is good but overpriced and overhyped.

I like Keatts a lot.
Also like Jacobson.

and then there is what Norm said at the end of last season about this season
“You can understand if (fans) want it to work, but you can’t just stand up and yell,” Stewart said. “That’s not going to do anything. You got some guy in mind? Who do you think can come in there and win next year? There isn’t anybody.”

quote:

Martin's players love him. He left k State because he didn't get along with the AD.
if you believe that there is a bridge I can get you a hell of a deal on
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 12:27 am
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 2:45 am to
1st pick would be Scott Drew from Baylor.

2nd pick would be Greg McDermott
From Creighton.

3rd pick Keats or Jacobson.

4th pick a coach with NBA experience that can recruit and can finish out the season after KA is fired (Derek Fisher).
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 2:50 am
Posted by JAGsports
Union Star
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:41 am to
Both Martins are better then KA but Jacobson and Amaker have a better track record. Jacobson beating KU will always sell to the fans. McDermott hasn't done anything without his son. His time at Iowa State wasn't much. Marshal would be a solid get but he isn't leaving
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:27 am to
Any top assistants that would be ready for the jump?

Has Jeff Capel successfully rebuilt himself after his OU run?
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