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Posted on 12/14/19 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 12:48 pm
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 12:51 pm to Zou brownmajic
It’s the ability to teach and execute that scheme that really matters. Dooley couldn’t get it done with an injured QB.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 12:56 pm to wubilli
True dat, but what do you think of Drink's offense? I know that the plays have to be executed and that the qb is the CPU, but if you go back to the Ole Miss game Dooley opened up the playbook with a gimpy Bryant.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 1:04 pm to Zou brownmajic
When I first read these I thought about doing the same thing you did ZBM (ask Nuke).
My first thought was it may take a certain kind of OL coach to teach all the variations. Or at the very least it will take a coach with an attention to detail and studious lineman willing and able to get it down cold. Not to mention the need for intelligent quarterbacks.
Unless there are obvious tells or keys, I could see this being a real challenge for opposing D's.
Wouldn't it be great to be on the delivering end of those 80 yard coast-to-coast running plays?
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 1:14 pm to Mizz-SEC
What I really like are the pre snap shifts and motions. It’s very sophisticated and it’s going to take some smart players to run this. He’s pretty advanced if you actually hear him talk about the game. I think our backs are going to benefit from this running scheme. He’s also into analytics and not doing things just because that’s the “way it’s always been done”.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 1:16 pm to Zou brownmajic
This whole thing to me is a running game with gimmick passes to keep the Defense honest, its a good ball control game plan with plays that could break on every play.
From what I see now, is Drink likes ball control, relies on Special teams doing at least one turn over, and defence that attacks
From what I see now, is Drink likes ball control, relies on Special teams doing at least one turn over, and defence that attacks
Posted on 12/14/19 at 1:24 pm to JesusQuintana
So I wonder where he's going to get his OL coach and what kind of linemen he needs to run this system? I'm assuming slightly lighter, more nimble footed would be preferred (or even madatory) vs. road grader types.
What are the protypes of both these days? Nimble is 295-310, road grader 345+ lbs?
If true, it may be another plus recruiting wise for Drink since Pittman is definitely going road grader in Arkansas like he did with Georgia and Arky the first time.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 1:42 pm to Mizz-SEC
I'm not even commenting on the formations until I watch more App State games. I need to watch them vs the Carolinas this year first and foremost.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:03 pm to blueprint_one
Regardless of scheme, he's going to find it much more difficult to go downhill in the SEC.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:15 pm to wubilli
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t’s the ability to teach and execute that scheme that really matters. Dooley couldn’t get it done with an injured QB.
Why was the injured QB in the game? Then there should have been a backup plan to take over.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:33 pm to blueprint_one
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:39 pm to blueprint_one
I know my fellow Omahan Nuke is much better at this, but I also ran to the Carolinas games as soon as Drink was hired especially USCe. I wanted to see how they handled Kinlaw.
I've got to say, I was impressed with how he taught his offense to execute the plan that took Kinlaw out of the game. Then when you watch North Carolina they attack totally differently. They don't seem to be locked in to anything, they seem to do whatever weakens the opponent. Which makes since when you can't match the talent level of the opponent.
I've got to say, I was impressed with how he taught his offense to execute the plan that took Kinlaw out of the game. Then when you watch North Carolina they attack totally differently. They don't seem to be locked in to anything, they seem to do whatever weakens the opponent. Which makes since when you can't match the talent level of the opponent.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:18 pm to surgicalvenom
The years that MU has been in the top half of the SEC in rushing, they primarily ran IZ. The last two years saw more OZ, counter/trap, and some power. They were a great run blocking unit in 2018. This year they couldn't block anything well. Brad Davis had coached All Conference players at all of his other stops but they were inept most of the year. I think the staff will end up asking the linemen to shed weight because they got beat on their steps far too often last year and rarely were able to get off combos to the second level due to penetration.
Drink's run game philosophy is going to mirror Malzahn's but I don't mean play design. They are only going to block a couple of different ways but they will be able to do it from multiple formations regardless of how the defense is aligned.
I think the most important part of the equation is that Drink can actually coach a QB and adjust his play calling to what the defense is doing. Dooley would catch a team in a favorable look, move the chains, and go right at the strength of the formation when he had them on their heels. Instead of hitting another chunk play, he'd call a play that would get stuffed or sniffed out on the boundary setting the offense behind the chains on 2nd down.
Drink's run game philosophy is going to mirror Malzahn's but I don't mean play design. They are only going to block a couple of different ways but they will be able to do it from multiple formations regardless of how the defense is aligned.
I think the most important part of the equation is that Drink can actually coach a QB and adjust his play calling to what the defense is doing. Dooley would catch a team in a favorable look, move the chains, and go right at the strength of the formation when he had them on their heels. Instead of hitting another chunk play, he'd call a play that would get stuffed or sniffed out on the boundary setting the offense behind the chains on 2nd down.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:07 pm to navynuke
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they primarily ran IZ. The last two years saw more OZ, counter/trap, and some power.
You're a sick man to know this shite. I'm OK in German and French, but Nukian is for brighter bulbs than me.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 7:17 am to Literalist
Il est bon de bien connaître les tactiques si l'on veut faire la guerre, n'est-ce pas?
Posted on 12/15/19 at 8:26 am to navynuke
Ja, aber ich bin zu dumm, um die Taktik zu verstehen.
Aber dein Deutsch ist sehr gut.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 8:46 am to Literalist
Je crois que tu veux dire français. Mon allemand n'est pas très bon.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 9:05 am to navynuke
C'etait ca la blague. Vous avez ecrit en francais et j'ai dit que votre allemand est bon.
This post was edited on 12/15/19 at 9:05 am
Posted on 12/15/19 at 9:16 am to Literalist
Posted on 12/15/19 at 1:39 pm to navynuke
“He does a really good job at playing with tempo, but not necessarily sprinting to the ball every play. It’s knowing when to go slow and when to go fast, and the full progression of reads. There will be a lot of RPO stuff (run-pass option), with runs and little five-yard outs that keep moving the chains. I wouldn’t expect there to be many drives — or opening drives — without some sort of trickery that the team can execute. That’s kind of been in his DNA for a long time — get into that rhythm and then finding that perfect opportunity to pull out the fun trick play.”
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 2:49 am
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