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Posted on 12/22/21 at 11:54 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 11:54 pm
Cook looked competent, even good at times. His ability to actually move brings something else to the offense. He didn’t cement himself, but he definitely showed potential. Why on earth Bazelak was playing is anyones guess.

OL played very well. Opened up some huge holes in the run game and pass pro was pretty good.

Young is very fast. He’s small, but he can run.

Folks will bag on Downing, but he played pretty well. The fumble was obviously not ideal.

WR did ok. Nothing special, but nothing poor either.

Yea thought the defense played pretty well especially considering how many guys we had out on that side.

My biggest complaint was the clock management at the end. I simply don’t understand why we didn’t run more clock on 1st and goal. Do that and we probably win. I’d love to hear Drink’s explanation, and I’d bet he would admit that mistake.
Posted by pauliebleaker
Chesterfield
Member since Jul 2014
1819 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 12:03 am to
Run one run play on the 1st and goal and we win. Takes 25 seconds off the clock and we win
This post was edited on 12/23/21 at 12:04 am
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 12:30 am to
I mean, maybe. Anything could happen. ARMY had TO left as well so they wouldn’t have let us do that, but it was absolutely the right call to at least try to run the play before that first and goal play.

Hopefully Drink learns from that
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3470 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 12:32 am to
We should have scored 28-35 points in the 1st half, but bad play calling dwarfed that. Drink should stick to delegating and recruiting and find an offensive coordinator.
This post was edited on 12/23/21 at 12:36 am
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 12:45 am to
LOL

Again, what play calls didn’t you like and why? What would have been better vs the defensive alignment we were facing on those particular plays?

This play works=good call, play doesn’t work=bad call is silly as can be.

Of course, there are going to be poor play calls in every game but guess what….”HIRE A OC!!!” Isn’t going to change that.

Drink is going to be calling the plays no matter who is hired. Get used to it

Should have scored a TD on every possession huh? Lol, totally reasonable dude
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14869 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 2:24 am to
What I am seeing from this bowl game is Drinkwitz is evaluating players for next year. There were 4 key players out. He is trying to see who will be key players that might be starters/backups next year. Also, he is trying to find out what to get from transfer portal and any more HS recruits for this class. I am seeing what he is trying to do and Drinkwitz doesn't have players that are mostly 4* and 5* players and doesn't have good backups and depth! Alabama isn't in that situation! They reload each year with 4* and 5* players and some highly rated transfers!
This post was edited on 12/23/21 at 10:43 pm
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19232 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 6:28 am to
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Again, what play calls didn’t you like and why?

How about second possession, 2nd and goal on the one - and Cook tries to run wide and loses four rather than bust it up the gut twice? Then how about late in the 3rd quarter, 4th and less than one on the Army 43 - and we again try to run wide with Downing and lose two? We had been pushing them around between the tackles the entire game.

More than anything, seeing what Brady Cook brought to the offense as a dual threat QB (a confirmation of what we saw against Georgia, btw) what the frick was Drinkwitz doing not benching Bazelak weeks ago?? Cook brought the same accuracy Ballsack did at his best along with the running element to extend drives and offer a sorely needed second running threat.

Drink had weeks to figure this shite out and did nothing. Said he couldn't adequately prepare the back-up QB. What a load of bullshite. Pinkle did. Coaches across the colleges and NFL do, but Drink couldn't?? Some genius. His game and player asset management need to improve vastly.

If this were a legal case Drinkwitz would be getting brought up on charges of criminal negligence.

Posted by blueprint_one
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2015
1307 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:25 am to
Did Drink watch the Chiefs vs Chargers game? Jeez the Coach got in the way of the team.

1 - Going for it on 4th down when you have arguably the best kicker in the history of the program took away 3 points early on.

2 - Calling timeouts with just a hair under 4 minutes left only helps the other team when they get the ball back. We really aren't a team that can sustain long drives.

3 - You leave them with less time and force them to play a game they aren't used to. Basically passing the ball with a third string qb with ideally less than 45 seconds left.

4 - Really costly false starts are all on the coach.

5 - The 2 point conversion was a clusterf*ck, I blame Cook as much as I blame Drink.

6 - Our best player was Cook but our best EXPERIENCED player was Mevis. Let him win a game that was trending to be a low scoring game.

7 - I am not blaming Downing the turnover - that's going to happen on a first start. I'm surprised we didn't have more tbh.

At the end of the day, it's on Eli. We had the better qb and kicker, they had the better running back.

The coaching from both sides was not good.
Posted by blueprint_one
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2015
1307 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:34 am to
Also, wasn't this the first SEC bowl game?

Great job of confirming to the rest of the conference that you are who they thought you were.
This post was edited on 12/23/21 at 8:35 am
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:52 am to
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1 - Going for it on 4th down when you have arguably the best kicker in the history of the program took away 3 points early on.


Absolutely should have went for it there. You wanted us to attempt a 60 yard field goal? 100% correct call to go. You can argue the play call here, but that stretch play had been gashing them all game long

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2 - Calling timeouts with just a hair under 4 minutes left only helps the other team when they get the ball back. We really aren't a team that can sustain long drives.


We didn’t call any timeouts. We called one in the 3rd Quarter and ended the game with 2

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4 - Really costly false starts are all on the coach.


What?

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5 - The 2 point conversion was a clusterf*ck, I blame Cook as much as I blame Drink.


It was literally wide open and Brady just missed the throw.

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6 - Our best player was Cook but our best EXPERIENCED player was Mevis. Let him win a game that was trending to be a low scoring game.


What? There was no point in this game that he could/should have been used that he wasn’t.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15960 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 9:15 am to
My issue was how young had his way in the first, especially with running outside and they had no solution. And instead of doing that until army figured it you, drink decided to go with mainly run plays with DD down the middle
Posted by Faurot fodder
Member since Jul 2019
2246 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 9:24 am to
I thought we played fine, but I am curious as to why we never ran option again after scoring on it easily from 40 yards out on the first drive. In fact, that would have been my call on the 4th down we got stuffed on.
Posted by MizzouFan13
Member since Mar 2020
506 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 11:17 am to
We ran the read option on first and goal the following drive when Brady got tackled for 4 yard loss.
Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
1117 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 11:46 am to
Some of your complaints are nitpicking, although I agree we got away from some things that were working. The endzone attempt near game's end from the 25 didn't make sense, because if we had hit on it we give them the ball back with close to 2 minutes.
I think Cook looked fine. Young seems exciting. I think our DL will be solid next year.
I don't know how much of the hurry-up plays were Drink or Cook improvising because Drink told him to be on the lookout for opportunities, but I don't think it is necessary near the goal line.
I thought the defense did well, even without making excuses for missing players.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 5:48 pm to
This was just a glorified scrimmage. Hard to make any judgments. If we were serious about trying to win the game, Basie et al would have played. I’m glad he didn’t. Just saying, it was a step above a practice game
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 5:53 pm to
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This was just a glorified scrimmage. Hard to make any judgments.


Agree completely. That was my takeaway as well after the game.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 6:57 pm to
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My biggest complaint was the clock management at the end. I simply don’t understand why we didn’t run more clock on 1st and goal. Do that and we probably win. I’d love to hear Drink’s explanation, and I’d bet he would admit that mistake.



Simple, anything less than 4 minutes should not have been enough for Army. The defense was pathetic for 50% of the game and good for 50% of the game. Overall, they were mediocre which is definitely better than the first 2/3 of the season.

It still appears Wilks is terrible.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 10:21 pm to
They actually held Army to one of their lowest rushing outputs of the year. They did well especially considering the depth they had to play with that game

That last drive was aided Bigly by a phantom first down and the Facemask call
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 9:56 am to
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They actually held Army to one of their lowest rushing outputs of the year.


FYI, the following teams had better rushing defense performances against Army than we did:
- Ball State
- Wisconsin
- Air Force
- Liberty
- Navy

Georgia state was essentially the same as us at 3.85/3.84ypc.

So technically, we were 6th best vs Army this year out of 13 teams and one hundredth from being 7th. That is very mediocre.


Defense has two aspects. Stopping the run and stopping the pass. Not being able to stop army passing is absolutely unexplainable. Anyone trying to polish that turd of a defensive game has no concept of what "good" is anymore.
This post was edited on 12/24/21 at 9:57 am
Posted by Mizsioux
Member since Feb 2017
748 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 10:21 am to
Lol how many of those teams had only 2 starters get snaps in the second half?
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