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Am I the only one holding his/her breath about OSU?
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:26 am
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:26 am
Haven't seen his name mentioned at all so far and hope it stays that way, but isn't it Mizzou's luck that we get an OC that we're happy with so far only to get kicked in the nuts with an NCAA investigation while at a different school? Am I the only one that reads this stuff holding my breath hoping to not see Henson's name mentioned?
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:53 am to reedus23
Not worried. NCAA Statute of Limitations is 4 years.
I'd be worried if I was an OSU fan, only because, when the NCAA starts digging around they will find something.
I'd be worried if I was an OSU fan, only because, when the NCAA starts digging around they will find something.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:04 am to reedus23
Not worried at all, only ones worried should be Okie Lite, Miles is safe as well.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:03 pm to Tackle74
Thanks guys. Good to know. 
Posted on 9/10/13 at 1:43 pm to Remote Controlled
We need to have a system where we Mizzou Ranters pay each other for big hits (i.e. witty, well-reasoned retorts) on Arky trolls on the main board.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 9/10/13 at 2:04 pm to Remote Controlled
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Not worried. NCAA Statute of Limitations is 4 years.
There are exceptions laid out in the rule which may result in Miles and company being punished.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 2:34 pm to mizzoukills
Dammit killz. Now I'm back to putting on the nut cup waiting for the bomb to drop about Henson.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 3:13 pm to reedus23
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Dammit killz. Now I'm back to putting on the nut cup waiting for the bomb to drop about Henson.
Someone posted the rule exceptions on the rant a day or two ago. It clearly states that there are exceptions to the statute of limitations.
The exceptions are in line with claims being made about OSU.
People may truly be fuuuucked.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 3:17 pm to mizzoukills
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There are exceptions laid out in the rule which may result in Miles and company being punished.
Ahh, the 'ol "willful violators" clause?
Has a coach ever been given a show cause for infractions committed at a different university? i.e Miles gets one now, for infractions while he was at OSU.
That doesn't seem fair to LSU. I would think that would be a lawsuit waiting to happen.
It feels like the NCAA is slowly losing its grip on its institutions.
I don't think anything happens unless the NCAA can find proof of recent transgressions at OSU under Gundy, and it that case it will be Gundy/OSU who take the fall.
Again, if I were OSU, I'd be nervous that the NCAA is going to come sniffing around. Where there's smoke there's fire, especially with big money boosters floating around. I'd be willing to bet someone from OU tipped off SI. Just as I believe someone from UT started the Manziel stuff.
It's a dirty world behind the scenes down there. But we all knew that already.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 4:10 pm to Remote Controlled
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It feels like the NCAA is slowly losing its grip on its institutions.
This seems likely to me as well.
I foresee college football sans the NCAA in the big 4 conferences after realignments settles itself in a decade or so
Posted on 9/10/13 at 5:32 pm to kilo
People who see college football without the NCAA, I'm just wondering do y'all see it as the Wild West with no rules or what exactly are you picturing?
Either way I don't exactly see mizzou thriving in this environment so I don't know Mizzou fans are hoping for this. It is only going to help the haves as they will make the rules
Either way I don't exactly see mizzou thriving in this environment so I don't know Mizzou fans are hoping for this. It is only going to help the haves as they will make the rules
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 5:42 pm to FightTigers
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Either way I don't exactly see mizzou thriving in this environment
agreed
Posted on 9/10/13 at 5:45 pm to FightTigers
No it wont be the wild west but it will be a different governing body compromised of the institutions in these super conferences with bylaws that make sense for the member institutions.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 5:50 pm to FightTigers
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Either way I don't exactly see mizzou thriving in this environment so I don't know Mizzou fans are hoping for this. It is only going to help the haves as they will make the rules
Whether you want to believe it or not Mizzou is a "have" in this scenario, no question about that. The financial windfalls are going to be impressive for super conference members and the SEC in particular.
Its honestly kind of naive to not recognize the disparity that exists right now regardless.
Mizzou fans need to look to the future and expect more. The money will be there so in the long run the pressure needs to be applied to the AD and the University to take this new financial empowerment and move the program forward.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 5:53 pm to Remote Controlled
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I'd be worried if I was an OSU fan, only because, when the NCAA starts digging around they will find something.
This. Oklahoma State might as well forgo their bowl game this year, and maybe the next so they don't get hit too hard; sort of like Miami did. I bet Ohio State sure wishes they'd have self-sanctioned a bowl ban lol
Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:49 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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We need to have a system where we Mizzou Ranters pay each other for big hits (i.e. witty, well-reasoned retorts) on Arky trolls on the main board.
This has endless possibilities.
I don't foresee the Okie Lite investigation coming back on Henson. Unless they were extraordinarily dumb, there's no way to prove the cash payments, and a couple of the guys accused of getting the big bucks are now deceased. They'd have a better chance of proving the fake jobs accusation. But proving any of the accusations that date back to Miles will be really difficult.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 9:03 pm to kilo
I mean we might be a "have" as in one of the top 64 teams. But we are not a blue blood and never will be. The Bamas, and Bevos of this world will get what they want. We don't have to money to compete with them, as is evidenced in the current NCAA. That gap will only widen if they get their way, as at least now there is some scherade of college athletics being "amateur."
Posted on 9/10/13 at 9:19 pm to FightTigers
It's my opinion that college athletes shouldn't be paid a salary. Now, if they want to increase their stipend in order to cover the true expense of education, or whatever they call it, so they can pay for incidental expenses, OK. But, if you open that can of worms, you have NFL JV. It would be a disaster. IMO, of course.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:48 pm to semotruman
Terrance Harris, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune
September 10, 2013 at 4:51 PM, updated September 10, 2013 at 9:56 PM
Ex-LSU athletic director Skip Bertman found no evidence of NCAA violations by Les Miles before his hiring.
Some NCAA rules violations may have taken place at Oklahoma State when Les Miles was head coach, but former LSU athletic director Skip Bertman said Tuesday nothing came up in the background check when he was hired by the Tigers in 2004.
A five-part series by Sports Illustrated released Tuesday alleges that players were paid by coaches and boosters while Miles was head coach at Oklahoma State from 2001-04. These are accusations Miles has denied and Bertman told NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune he found no evidence of wrongdoing by Miles prior to hiring him.
"We did an extensive background check on a personal basis, and there was also a background check on the University per se," Bertman said. "Nothing showed in terms of NCAA issues - nothing.
"I'm not saying this guy is wrong. But I am saying there was nothing that involved Les Miles."
Sports Illustrated talked to several former players who were there during Miles' tenure and no one said the current LSU coach was ever directly part of the pay-for-play scandal, the magazine alleges. But one player did say he went to Miles for help and he pointed him in the direction of a woman who did provide alleged illegal payments.
Les Miles responds to investigations ongoing at Oklahoma State: These reported violations are beyond the statute of limitations, which makes it unlikely the NCAA can bring any penalties to Miles or any of the accused coaches on his staff. But Miles denied on Saturday that there were any violations committed at OSU under his watch.
LSU players did not meet with the media on Tuesday, since none were specifically requested. Miles is expected to talk Wednesday during the SEC coaches teleconference and then during a regularly scheduled press conference Wednesday afternoon.
"I think Les will be very closed-mouthed about this," Bertman said. "I don't think he has anything to hide. Personally I don't think (LSU athletic director) Joe (Alleva) should do anything. I don't want to second-guess him. The right thing to do is just play football here, then go after it, and it will pass.
"I don't think he had anything to do with it. Les is scared to death of breaking rules. His coaches are told daily, 'We just don't do that.' You can win without doing anything wrong by having 50 guys go to the NFL, which is pretty much what Les has done."
September 10, 2013 at 4:51 PM, updated September 10, 2013 at 9:56 PM
Ex-LSU athletic director Skip Bertman found no evidence of NCAA violations by Les Miles before his hiring.
Some NCAA rules violations may have taken place at Oklahoma State when Les Miles was head coach, but former LSU athletic director Skip Bertman said Tuesday nothing came up in the background check when he was hired by the Tigers in 2004.
A five-part series by Sports Illustrated released Tuesday alleges that players were paid by coaches and boosters while Miles was head coach at Oklahoma State from 2001-04. These are accusations Miles has denied and Bertman told NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune he found no evidence of wrongdoing by Miles prior to hiring him.
"We did an extensive background check on a personal basis, and there was also a background check on the University per se," Bertman said. "Nothing showed in terms of NCAA issues - nothing.
"I'm not saying this guy is wrong. But I am saying there was nothing that involved Les Miles."
Sports Illustrated talked to several former players who were there during Miles' tenure and no one said the current LSU coach was ever directly part of the pay-for-play scandal, the magazine alleges. But one player did say he went to Miles for help and he pointed him in the direction of a woman who did provide alleged illegal payments.
Les Miles responds to investigations ongoing at Oklahoma State: These reported violations are beyond the statute of limitations, which makes it unlikely the NCAA can bring any penalties to Miles or any of the accused coaches on his staff. But Miles denied on Saturday that there were any violations committed at OSU under his watch.
LSU players did not meet with the media on Tuesday, since none were specifically requested. Miles is expected to talk Wednesday during the SEC coaches teleconference and then during a regularly scheduled press conference Wednesday afternoon.
"I think Les will be very closed-mouthed about this," Bertman said. "I don't think he has anything to hide. Personally I don't think (LSU athletic director) Joe (Alleva) should do anything. I don't want to second-guess him. The right thing to do is just play football here, then go after it, and it will pass.
"I don't think he had anything to do with it. Les is scared to death of breaking rules. His coaches are told daily, 'We just don't do that.' You can win without doing anything wrong by having 50 guys go to the NFL, which is pretty much what Les has done."
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:11 pm to ozland
Well Henson finally got his name mentioned once it got to the sex allegations. No big deal. In fact, I keep waiting for the shoe to drop with these articles and it's been a whole lot of disappoint so far.
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