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re: this guy seems to think we got a future star in will grier
Posted on 8/9/15 at 8:57 am to boXerrumble
Posted on 8/9/15 at 8:57 am to boXerrumble
How long does that remain a significant factor? IMO it's huge if they were both asked to battle it out as true Freshmen. Now though Grier has had 2 springs and now a 2nd fall practicing against a great defense. If he has the size and skill set his high school competition doesnt weigh in nearly as much at this stage of the game.
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 10:57 am to boXerrumble
I know one thing...our weakness last year was inept receiving help on offense. Never saw so many dropped passes. # 1, # 9, # 85 and of course # 87.
Treon is going to have to show me marked improvement on throwing the ball and a completion percentage of around % 62 to 65% to make me feel better when he is taking snaps.
Treon is going to have to show me marked improvement on throwing the ball and a completion percentage of around % 62 to 65% to make me feel better when he is taking snaps.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:10 pm to reel_gator8
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I know one thing...our weakness last year was inept receiving help on offense. Never saw so many dropped passes. # 1, # 9, # 85 and of course # 87.
Treon is going to have to show me marked improvement on throwing the ball and a completion percentage of around % 62 to 65% to make me feel better when he is taking snaps.
And some of the passes were perfect, hit them right in the numbers or hands. If our receivers even caught half of the drops, numbers would be very, very different.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:12 pm to G8RnGA
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How long does that remain a significant factor? IMO it's huge if they were both asked to battle it out as true Freshmen. Now though Grier has had 2 springs and now a 2nd fall practicing against a great defense. If he has the size and skill set his high school competition doesnt weigh in nearly as much at this stage of the game.
It does a little bit.
Bein' in the shite is a lot different than simulation, at every level.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 7:09 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Drops and route running have still been issues in practice this fall. Unfortunatley.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 7:51 am to slayerxing
I watched too many routes by the receivers last year get broken off too soon or cuts slow enough that I could have covered them. We had no coaching last year. Having a receiver coach should help a lot this year.
I watched last year # 5 make some of the worse moves at the WR position that I have ever seen. He had his mind on something else it seemed. # 1 continually dropped key passes on third down and I would have benched him in favor of anyone else on the team. The receiving corp regressed in my opinion last year from 2013. I think Muschamp threw up his hands in frustration and tried to see if making only safe throws might work....that and run the ball or throw to DRob 80% of the time.
I feel good about the direction of our recruiting of receivers and the importance placed on it. But remember, our defense is good enough to win games for us if we just dont screw it up too much on offense.
I watched last year # 5 make some of the worse moves at the WR position that I have ever seen. He had his mind on something else it seemed. # 1 continually dropped key passes on third down and I would have benched him in favor of anyone else on the team. The receiving corp regressed in my opinion last year from 2013. I think Muschamp threw up his hands in frustration and tried to see if making only safe throws might work....that and run the ball or throw to DRob 80% of the time.
I feel good about the direction of our recruiting of receivers and the importance placed on it. But remember, our defense is good enough to win games for us if we just dont screw it up too much on offense.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:23 am to reel_gator8
I think we should be prepared for a certain level of frickery from our offense....
Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:08 pm to slayerxing
I think we've seen it all over the last 6 years 
Posted on 8/12/15 at 5:07 pm to slayerxing
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Drops and route running have still been issues in practice this fall. Unfortunatley.
I think it'll be that way for a little bit, hopefully, though, we have a coach who can at the very least be creative and get the troops motivated.
What I hated was seeing receivers flat out jog their routes in several games. Literally just like it was a morning stroll.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:36 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
We had no receiver position coach and it showed. It just frustrated the hell out of me. # 1 was a sr and should have benched himself. I actually dreaded passing downs...no matter what happened it was 50/50 if we caught it.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 6:37 am to reel_gator8
Yeah, for WR coaches we really have had no stability there. Had Aubrey hill but he had to quit, then had a GA (who, to be fair, did the best he could for being inexperienced), then the Joker situation.
I'm really hoping that position can get it going again.
I'm really hoping that position can get it going again.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 7:23 pm to SpartyGator
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Yeah, for WR coaches we really have had no stability there. Had Aubrey hill but he had to quit, then had a GA (who, to be fair, did the best he could for being inexperienced), then the Joker situation.
I'm really hoping that position can get it going again.
It's not even just the WR coaches position, too, though.
We had three offensive coordinators in four years.
Who...despite coming from different philosophies, seemed to run almost identical play-calling.
I think now that we have an offensive-minded head coach, we won't have to worry about too much. We had two (failed) head coaches as positions and offensive coaches, a head coach with no offensive experience but ''an offensive gameplan'' (that he never ran at a coaching level, ever) and literally no leaders on offense at all.
Now, we have a somewhat proven coach (10-2 out in Colorado ain't bad) who's got a background in offense. I really, really hope that he has a magic key to fix it all.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 6:39 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
those 2 passes were frickin beuties tho i knew then he was gonna end up the starter by midseason
and for the record i dont really care who plays it sounds like grier has been better tho treon had the edge last yr coming from a big time program winning state titles in miami playing the best of the best but i think grier has caught up and then some
and for the record i dont really care who plays it sounds like grier has been better tho treon had the edge last yr coming from a big time program winning state titles in miami playing the best of the best but i think grier has caught up and then some
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:40 pm to gatortrav88
And thats the thing with Treon. He outplayed Grier in camp last year (although Grier getting hurt played a part in that).
And he played in the best high school competition in the country, unlike Grier and Driskel.
I hope Grier becomes a star just as much as any Gator fan. But we've seen 2 consecutive 5 star busts.
And he played in the best high school competition in the country, unlike Grier and Driskel.
I hope Grier becomes a star just as much as any Gator fan. But we've seen 2 consecutive 5 star busts.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:50 pm to boXerrumble
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And thats the thing with Treon. He outplayed Grier in camp last year (although Grier getting hurt played a part in that).
And he played in the best high school competition in the country, unlike Grier and Driskel.
I hope Grier becomes a star just as much as any Gator fan. But we've seen 2 consecutive 5 star busts.
Eh, unless Harris changed from water to wine, I don't think he'll do any better. He looked the same as Driskel as times, with less accuracy. We had one coaching bust, and we'll see if Harris can change with this one.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:44 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
What I don't understand about Driskel is back in 2012 he had progression visibly from A&M to Tennessee to Kentucky and then just fell off a cliff after that.
Yes better competition but his progression NEVER continued after those 3 games.
Yes better competition but his progression NEVER continued after those 3 games.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:19 pm to boXerrumble
49% completion rate don't get it done, no matter who you are.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 8:15 pm to boXerrumble
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boXerrumble
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What I don't understand about Driskel is back in 2012 he had progression visibly from A&M to Tennessee to Kentucky and then just fell off a cliff after that.
Yes better competition but his progression NEVER continued after those 3 games.
Well some of the board have short memories....I dont. If you recall....2012 started with all out battle for starting qb...and even had both Driskel and Brissett take the first snaps of the opener...even though Driskel had won the position.
That could have/should have been handled differently. Charlie Hamburger had left after sitting on coolers through practices. Driskel saved us in the Texas A&M game for their first ever SEC game at Kyle Field...we were sold out by Slive and he had us in a bad situation with College Gameday on hand (UGA for instance had Mizzou at home for their first SEC game). Our defense kept us in the game and Driskel made some great runs to beat them after being down at the half. Then we had to travel to Knoxvegas with Gameday again being there...but Driskel played very well and we beat the snot out of them really.
What happened later? Fans wanted to see fireworks and high scores. I think Driskel tweaked an ankle somewhere early in the season and he was never quite the same.
Our defense dominated LSU and we did enough to win 14-6, but fans dont like defense and dont understand football. I love to hear pads popping. We had Gillislee running enough yds to beat teams.
We dont Grier/Harris to light it up or try to win games. Take what you can, punt and let the defense win it. If people would remember that it is EXTREMELY difficult in the hard nose SEC to march 80 yds for a score...punt em deep and they will make mistakes. Use exotic run packages to take burden off our qb when its third and more than four yds....or safe passes. McGee is going to help a lot.
Posted on 8/22/15 at 5:01 pm to gatortrav88
Grier seems to have the talent to be really good. If he can't win the starting job then we need to get a starter in this next recruiting class because Harris is not going to work. He is to short and a average passer at best. One thing Grier also has going for him is that he redshirted last year so he should have had less coaching from last years clueless staff.
It is weird that the team didn't seem to want to play for Driskell. I can't wait to see how Driskell does with his new team.
It is weird that the team didn't seem to want to play for Driskell. I can't wait to see how Driskell does with his new team.
Posted on 8/23/15 at 2:14 pm to boXerrumble
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What I don't understand about Driskel is back in 2012 he had progression visibly from A&M to Tennessee to Kentucky and then just fell off a cliff after that.
Yes better competition but his progression NEVER continued after those 3 games.
I always said he looked very good in those games, and had flashes of success later on.
I think the biggest problem was the coaching change. You can't change the offense that many times without significant dropoff, especially since I think they told Driskel to stop scrambling, which is a big part of Driskel.
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