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this guy seems to think we got a future star in will grier
Posted on 4/28/15 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 4/28/15 at 7:22 pm
might be a bit much but he broke down his reasoning pretty well 
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:01 pm to gatortrav88
Pretty good lil article. Although it is a small sample size the writer is just pointing out that Grier is doing good at executing all the small things really we'll. Gathering what I have read about Coach Mac, he is all about attention to detail.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 6:40 am to olemc999
I want to believe so, but we just had 2 consecutive 5 star busts.
I'll believe it when I see it.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:50 pm to boXerrumble
I agree. With the exception of Dan Mullen, Florida never really had any great QBs coach to develop those 5* guys. I really like that Coach Mac specializes in QBs and WRs, our two most under developed positions the last 6 years.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:19 pm to GatorBalls14
Mullen didn't really develop Tebow...he was born with God given talent that he himself honed in the weight room and practice field...you cant coach determination.
Back to the subject at hand: Its hard to say what Grier will do...he didn't play against top teams in high school (sorta like Driskel)and I will play wait and see. Treon worries me because although he has athletic ability to run...he was thrown for losses a lot when attempting passes...he seemed much more suited for designed run plays. Passing is still a work in progress until further notice. We need a leader and a positive direction on offense and Grier seems to be likely to provide that...in other words...a fresh start.
Back to the subject at hand: Its hard to say what Grier will do...he didn't play against top teams in high school (sorta like Driskel)and I will play wait and see. Treon worries me because although he has athletic ability to run...he was thrown for losses a lot when attempting passes...he seemed much more suited for designed run plays. Passing is still a work in progress until further notice. We need a leader and a positive direction on offense and Grier seems to be likely to provide that...in other words...a fresh start.
Posted on 8/6/15 at 12:12 am to reel_gator8
I still think Treon has a shot to win the job. I know the FSU game, especially that last drive wasn't the greatest sight.
But he made a few ballsy decisions in that game and never appeared to lose his confidence. A few more calls go our way (that dumb sequence with the personal foul on Pittman) and who knows if we're having a QB discussion right now.
But he made a few ballsy decisions in that game and never appeared to lose his confidence. A few more calls go our way (that dumb sequence with the personal foul on Pittman) and who knows if we're having a QB discussion right now.
Posted on 8/6/15 at 12:11 pm to boXerrumble
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I still think Treon has a shot to win the job. I know the FSU game, especially that last drive wasn't the greatest sight.
But he made a few ballsy decisions in that game and never appeared to lose his confidence. A few more calls go our way (that dumb sequence with the personal foul on Pittman) and who knows if we're having a QB discussion right now.
Dude, Harris was pretty horrible passing. Even Driskel was more accurate.
Driskel,J. 9 103.52 114-212-10 53.8 1140 9 73 126.7
Harris,Tr. 9 146.21 55-111-4 49.5 1019 9 86 113.2
Posted on 8/7/15 at 12:03 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You're really using 4 percentage points better as an indicator that Driskel is the better passer?
We saw a little bit of Treon. We saw pretty much 2 3/4s seasons of Driskel.
We saw a little bit of Treon. We saw pretty much 2 3/4s seasons of Driskel.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 12:23 am to boXerrumble
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You're really using 4 percentage points better as an indicator that Driskel is the better passer?
I'm sayin' everyone here lynched him and he was more accurate.
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We saw a little bit of Treon. We saw pretty much 2 3/4s seasons of Driskel.
Harris had half the interceptions and half the passes with less accuracy.
So, it was pretty much the exact same production with his receivers having far less drops and some absolutely horrible passes that should have never been completed.
Grier will start, period.
Unless he is absolute garbage.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 8:56 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I think the team played better for Treon, and I think Treon was more confident than Jeff, but Jeff knew the offense FAR BETTER than Treon, and it showed.
That being said, Jeff made bad decisions passing the football. Treon, not as much.
Treon did have 5 fumbles though with 3 lost. Jeff only had 2.
Jeff had 10 INT though.
Neither were great last year, but all the statistics show out that the UF offense was much better with Treon at QB.
Really good read
That being said, Jeff made bad decisions passing the football. Treon, not as much.
Treon did have 5 fumbles though with 3 lost. Jeff only had 2.
Jeff had 10 INT though.
Neither were great last year, but all the statistics show out that the UF offense was much better with Treon at QB.
Really good read
Posted on 8/7/15 at 12:19 pm to slayerxing
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I think the team played better for Treon, and I think Treon was more confident than Jeff, but Jeff knew the offense FAR BETTER than Treon, and it showed.
Easy to be more confident when everyone supports you.
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That being said, Jeff made bad decisions passing the football. Treon, not as much. Jeff had 10 INT though.
Treon had 4 with half as many passes, and several of Jeff's were direct results of bad receiver play -- dropped balls or horribly run routes.
Needless to say: Treon sucked last year, just as bad (if not worse as far as accuracy goes, especially since Jeff threw twice as much).
As I said, and in total conclusion: Grier will start. Treon has zero chance unless he's had a revolution in the off-season.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 6:46 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Driskel,J. 9 103.52 114-212-10 53.8 1140 9 73 126.7
Harris,Tr. 9 146.21 55-111-4 49.5 1019 9 86 113.2
Driskel only had 121 more yards passing while throwing 101 more passes.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:08 pm to olemc999
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Driskel only had 121 more yards passing while throwing 101 more passes.
It's amazing what happens when your receivers actually catch the ball, don't whiff and play for you.
2 passes from Eastern Michigan got Harris 148 free yards and really boosted his numbers.
Also had several huge screen plays (one for 70 yards) that gave him a huge boost statistically for yardage.
After the Vanderbilt game, Harris went:
5 - 11
4 - 12
13 - 32
5 - 11.
He really didn't do any better than Driskel even if the team ''appeared to play better with him'' -- in the end -- Grier will probably start, unless of course, the team collapses and refuses to play for another quarterback.
Posted on 8/8/15 at 5:28 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Apparently, just based on watching the damn games, Treon threw a more catchable ball. That or the WR stopped sucking quite as bad around mid season, IDK.
UF had 18 drops heading into the Mizzou game i think. It was REALLY REALLY bad.
That being said, if you read Bill Connely's 2015 SB nation florida preview, the stats show that Florida, as a team, played MUCH BETTER the last 5 games of the season once Treon was full time QB.
It's not worth arguing about why that is, but the only major change in the line up was Treon really.
UF had 18 drops heading into the Mizzou game i think. It was REALLY REALLY bad.
That being said, if you read Bill Connely's 2015 SB nation florida preview, the stats show that Florida, as a team, played MUCH BETTER the last 5 games of the season once Treon was full time QB.
It's not worth arguing about why that is, but the only major change in the line up was Treon really.
Posted on 8/8/15 at 6:10 pm to slayerxing
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Apparently, just based on watching the damn games, Treon threw a more catchable ball. That or the WR stopped sucking quite as bad around mid season, IDK.
Like the one where he was being sacked and threw it into the end zone to a guy surrounded by 5 defensive players and the receiver just happened to catch it?
As opposed to that same guy dropping a floater into the end zone just a week earlier from Driskel?
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UF had 18 drops heading into the Mizzou game i think. It was REALLY REALLY bad.
The ball wasn't easier to catch or harder, but 18 drops with many of them hitting the receivers right in their hands.
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That being said, if you read Bill Connely's 2015 SB nation florida preview, the stats show that Florida, as a team, played MUCH BETTER the last 5 games of the season once Treon was full time QB.
It's not worth arguing about why that is, but the only major change in the line up was Treon really.
Yeah, but he didn't really do anything, did he?
I just showed that outside of the Vanderbilt game, he hit below 50% of his passes and threw almost no passes the entire game.
I saw receivers working for him, but here's the real thing that's not worth arguing:
Grier is gonna start, if he doesn't, then our QB situation isn't good at all. Harris did not have a great year, did no better statistically than Driskel the entire year and turned it over at the same rate.
Hopefully Grier comes in and we have great production, but unless Harris drank holy water over the off-season, I can't imagine he'll be very good.
Posted on 8/8/15 at 6:18 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
The team played better after Driskel wasn't the QB anymore. I don't think that's Driskel's fault, it just is what it is.
Treon had 7 turnovers all season, including lost fumbles. Driskel had 12. Treon turned the ball over less.
But he could barely operate the offense. They only had a few passing plays they trusted him to run.
That last drive against FSU was ugly.
But yeah, reports are that Grier is the guy, barring badness.
Treon had 7 turnovers all season, including lost fumbles. Driskel had 12. Treon turned the ball over less.
But he could barely operate the offense. They only had a few passing plays they trusted him to run.
That last drive against FSU was ugly.
But yeah, reports are that Grier is the guy, barring badness.
This post was edited on 8/8/15 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 8/8/15 at 6:55 pm to slayerxing
Apparently Grier was hitting a double move corner fade route that only special QBs can really get down in practice today. Was like a perfect 10 for 10.
Posted on 8/8/15 at 7:19 pm to slayerxing
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Treon had 7 turnovers all season, including lost fumbles. Driskel had 12. Treon turned the ball over less.
He turned it over at the same rate, meaning if he had played more games he would have had the same results.
He had half the passes, nearly half the interceptions.
Put it on the ground more, and played fewer games. Similarly, if you count blindeside sacks as turnovers, tipped balls (from receivers dropping passes) as Driskel's fault, sure, but Harris was on road to have the same, fortunately, he just wasn't asked to do much.
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But yeah, reports are that Grier is the guy, barring badness.
Unless he's horrible, he's gonna start. Harris couldn't do anything, although he did scramble well.
Posted on 8/8/15 at 7:20 pm to olemc999
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Apparently Grier was hitting a double move corner fade route that only special QBs can really get down in practice today. Was like a perfect 10 for 10.
I hope this is the story, and that Grier can stay healthy.
Posted on 8/8/15 at 11:58 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Thing that worries me about Grier is that he didn't play vs top high school competition, similar to Driskel.
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