re: The UF HC search 2017 edition

Eh I can see the hesitation. Mac was Heralded as a guru and only needed to hire a defensive staff. He wasn't a fit. We need motivators and recruiters who can coach. Norvell resume isnt much different. 5-6 vs teams with a winning record and 3-2 vs the top 25. Hiring a bad staff led to our problems now. Imo the HR is Kelly but he's not coming. Frost is second IMO and looks the part. 3-7 vs teams with a winning record w-all losses in year one and 0-1 vs the top 25. Frost IMO would be the energetic hire but Norvell could work. If it's true Franklin's buyout is $2M til the new year I'D contact his agent immediately.

McElwains offense isn’t even close to similar to Norvell. Have to look at them systematically. Poor comparison.

But Frost has already established relationships with schools around the state. Has norvell recruited any players from Florida yet?

Two things that stand out for me on Frost:

Small sample size on being a head coach and Oregon's complete drop off when he left.

Eh, no he won't. I love what stricklin has done so far

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But Frost has already established relationships with schools around the state. Has norvell recruited any players from Florida yet?

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This is the point, too. Why take a chance on an out of state hire when we have one in state, who knows the circuit, who has admitted that he likes the circuit and who runs an offense we all adore?

It makes no logistical, monetary or strategic sense to take Norvell over Frost. Similarly with Strong, he's already in Florida, Norvell is at least fourth or fifth.

Strong has experience, Leach has experience, both run spread offenses and I'm not worried about Leach's capacity to recruit because he can make walk-ons look amazing.

I just have no idea why Norvell is on the radar when there are viable alternatives at every point with no drop-off.

Anything Norvell can do, Frost can do better.

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Hey, you know my stance... when opposing teams want you to hire a guy... it's probably because he's not the best option. I sincerely hope UF hires Norvell. For all of the reasons mentioned in your post. He's such a square peg/round hole fit, that I see it going worse than Mac. You can do this Scott... your rivals are counting on you.

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It's weird, too, because Scott beat Norvell on the field by 27.

He was on the list before the list was really created, and I have to wonder if it's just his agent creating fake news -- same with Taggart.

For Norvell: ''Here's this coach who isn't as good as an in-state coach when they have relatively the same amount of time at their respective schools.''

For Taggart: ''Here's another coach from the West who might not have a winning season at Oregon. Maybe he'll do better than your last.''

For Kiffin: ''Here's another coach who can't keep his fricking mouth shut or out of the news, just like your old one, good luck!''

Frost is an obvious choice, and I can see no reason why he won't be at Florida unless we dick around and frick ourselves over by offering one of these chuckleheads.

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That’s false as well, he is actually recruiting better than Fuente by the rankings. Dude has some 4*’s committed and actually has others interested. Memphis fans are actually surprised. Also, the ability to maintain something isn’t always easy if you don’t know what you are doing. It’s easy to lose control.

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That sounds like Butch Jones . I would rather get a head coach who turned a program around then off who took over a team and kept it going . I would take Brohm over Norvell.

That's true he replaced Paxton lynch with Riley Ferguson who played zero football the year before and killed it. As for the Mac comparison it was strictly based on results not philosophy. I'm on board with Frost or Norvell.

Did Urban recruit Florida heavily Fromm Utah? You can either recruit, or you can’t. Relationships can be built in 6 months-2 years depending on how good of a recruiter you are. You are either good at it or not, not much in between.