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re: I’ll admit it, Franks had a decent game...
Posted on 11/11/18 at 1:08 pm to tjv305
Posted on 11/11/18 at 1:08 pm to tjv305
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Straws do you want Mullen fired ? Do you know more about QBs then Mullen? I can see complaining about a QB for a game or 2 but 2 years is ridiculous . You must be a teenager because you seem to complain about everything.
The Gators fanbase has become the weirdest little cuck group of sunshine pumpers I have ever seen.
I will never post here again if you can find one place where I said I wanted Mullen fired, or even alluded to it. As for the QB situation: I really want to have a successful football team, and I know that we will win some games we shouldn't because Mullen is an outstanding football coach.
Like one of the best coaches we've ever had.
But that's not because of our QB. We win in spite of our QB, not because of him -- and it's been that way for years. I know for a fact when Mullen gets his guy we'll be completely okay, and we'll go back to winning games with fantastic QB play.
What I'm tired of is this weirdly stubborn coaching stuff we've had with the past three administrations where they can't handle the QB position. Mullen picked a horse and went with it -- no matter how bad he was and it's frustrating to me, not because I think Trask is better, but because I know being ultra-conservative is going to lose us some games that we absolutely should never lose.
Franks did okay yesterday, but it wasn't even better than average. It was lukewarm, and I won't sit idly by and give credit for that outside of -- well I'm glad he wasn't below average.
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Either did Fromm vs AU yesterday.
I have to wonder how many of you actually drink on this board.
I shite all over Fromm. I think he's horrendously average but surrounded by a rather good team. The difference is Fromm can process the field, and so he masks his really middle-of-the-road QB ability. And I've said this countless times.
One time actually calling you guys out for not complaining about me talking badly about Fromm.
Me saying Fromm was bad.
Me saying the exact same thing I said here.
I'm bolding this because apparently people here are far too stupid to ever understand this one thing: You guys are completely misrepresenting every single thought I have. It's getting very old and I need you guys to at least start to pretend that you're reading what I'm saying.
It's really bizarre that you guys pile on and agree on things that I have never said. Stop drunk talking football, because it's really annoying.
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 1:13 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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The Gators fanbase has become the weirdest little cuck group of sunshine pumpers I have ever seen.
Says the guy who pumped all last year as we won 4 games and fired the HC he was pumping. So excuse us for being excited that we’re close to doubling our wins and have an offense not ranked in the 100s
Posted on 11/11/18 at 3:39 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I am not saying that you want Mullen fired . That’s what’s so funny. You blamed Franks last year instead of Mac and now your blaming Franks again instead of Mullen. Franks can only do what he is told . Both of those coaches that you hype up think he is the best QB on the roster . You need to blame Mullen for Franks struggles . Mullen calls the plays and decides who will play QB . I could under stand your hate for Franks struggles more if this was a NFL team and he was highly paid . Franks just got a scholarship to play here like Trask who can’t even get playing time .
You do think Trask is better but none of the coaches seem to agree. I think most of the fans can see why Franks is the starter this year . He has more experience and potential then Trask . Trask will never do anything here . I don’t expect Franks to start next year but his chances were much better then Trask before he got injured.
You do think Trask is better but none of the coaches seem to agree. I think most of the fans can see why Franks is the starter this year . He has more experience and potential then Trask . Trask will never do anything here . I don’t expect Franks to start next year but his chances were much better then Trask before he got injured.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 7:50 pm to tjv305
I don't need the coaches to tell me who is better and who is not -- that both coaches agreed on Franks isn't an indictment on Mullen or even McElwain, it's just as I suspected:
He practices better than he performs.
Trask has visual and statistical data to support that when the heat is on, he's better. It's not really my fault that that's the case, it just is. Franks is a better leader, but Trask has a much higher football IQ.
Coaches are stubborn, sometimes stupidly. I think everyone (including the coaching staff) will be very happy when Franks goes to whatever G5 school that will have him.
I trust Mullen, but I think it's clear that he fumbled the QB position this year -- whether you agree or not on that, Trask has regularly outperformed Franks on the field according to several sources and of course the game we watched.
He practices better than he performs.
Trask has visual and statistical data to support that when the heat is on, he's better. It's not really my fault that that's the case, it just is. Franks is a better leader, but Trask has a much higher football IQ.
Coaches are stubborn, sometimes stupidly. I think everyone (including the coaching staff) will be very happy when Franks goes to whatever G5 school that will have him.
I trust Mullen, but I think it's clear that he fumbled the QB position this year -- whether you agree or not on that, Trask has regularly outperformed Franks on the field according to several sources and of course the game we watched.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:28 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I think everyone (including the coaching staff) will be very happy when Franks goes to whatever G5 school that will have him.
Highly doubt Franks transfers until after next season when its a reality he has lost the job.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:27 pm to dbuchanon
He'll transfer next year or the year after, it really doesn't matter.
He will not finish out his career at Florida. I can already read between the lines with Jalon (he's being promised a lot of playing time, which is why I don't think we're going to see Bryant at Florida).
Personally, why waste our time with it? Trask can be a backup and he's like a canned yam, literally draws no ire so he can wait another year.
He will not finish out his career at Florida. I can already read between the lines with Jalon (he's being promised a lot of playing time, which is why I don't think we're going to see Bryant at Florida).
Personally, why waste our time with it? Trask can be a backup and he's like a canned yam, literally draws no ire so he can wait another year.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:32 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Why wont you talk about anything else but Franks??? Cause you got your itty bitty feelings hurt when he was named starter..why don't you SUPPORT him since he IS our QB? I would support Trask or Emory.
You might be wrong about next year pal...no one knows what Mullen will do next fall. No one. Its way too premature to guess who starts at any position. If Franks is the starter next year I will lmao at your implosion. We might have to get you a straight jacket
You might be wrong about next year pal...no one knows what Mullen will do next fall. No one. Its way too premature to guess who starts at any position. If Franks is the starter next year I will lmao at your implosion. We might have to get you a straight jacket
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:05 am to reel_gator8
What is all the BS about Franks transferring? Is this just a dream for Straws and a few other Negagators?
Why would he transfer when he believes that he will be the starter going forward. He is only a Soph and will be a 2 yr returning starter next year.
Like it or not, it's his job until someone takes it from him. They couldn't do it this year, maybe someone will step up next year to challenge him.
I will support whoever the coaches put on the field because I am a Gator fan and don't have any axes to grind against any of our players. I wish them all the best.
Why would he transfer when he believes that he will be the starter going forward. He is only a Soph and will be a 2 yr returning starter next year.
Like it or not, it's his job until someone takes it from him. They couldn't do it this year, maybe someone will step up next year to challenge him.
I will support whoever the coaches put on the field because I am a Gator fan and don't have any axes to grind against any of our players. I wish them all the best.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:35 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Franks is a bum, and until he learns to mature and get the frick off of Twitter, he'll continue to be a bum.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:43 am to KajunGator
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:26 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
It's hard to argue who the starter should be when you are not on the staff and see them play everyday. Mullen makes a lot of money and he wouldn't be the first dumb arse coach who made poor choices, but I don't see that here. Even though Trask orchestrated a good drive in the last game, he was locking on to receivers and didn't show me that he was any better than Franks. I don't see any history of Trask being a world beater either unless you also think his high school coach was too stubborn to start the better player.
If there were a measurable difference I think Mullen would make Trask the starter if for no other reason than self-preservation.
And I haven't been on this board a lot lately, but is that everyone's beef with you? You think Trask is better and should be the starter? You may be right, but since he is out for the year I would think this argument should now be moot?
Sorry if I have it all wrong I am late to the party.
If there were a measurable difference I think Mullen would make Trask the starter if for no other reason than self-preservation.
And I haven't been on this board a lot lately, but is that everyone's beef with you? You think Trask is better and should be the starter? You may be right, but since he is out for the year I would think this argument should now be moot?
Sorry if I have it all wrong I am late to the party.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 1:00 pm to bigDgator
The problem is that they falsely equivocate my arguments to Trask -- he is out of the year.
I'm not going to support a bad Quarterback because he's all we have, and I'm not going to take Mullen blaming fan's attendance for Franks being unable to hit the 100 yard mark.
I love Mullen, I like what he's doing, but his pigheadedness lost us a lot of time with players who actually have futures at the QB position.
And I guess that's what my biggest gripe is: It was clear to anyone with a pair of eyes that Franks has zero chance to make it to the NFL, even less as the season has gone on.
Treon Harris in 2015 didn't have a single game where he failed to reach 100 yards against any defense when he started the game, Franks did it vs. Missouri.
Treon Harris was a year younger, and now plays as a WR for an FCS school. The writing was on the wall before the season started, and at some point a coach has to realize that his guy ain't it.
I'm not going to support a bad Quarterback because he's all we have, and I'm not going to take Mullen blaming fan's attendance for Franks being unable to hit the 100 yard mark.
I love Mullen, I like what he's doing, but his pigheadedness lost us a lot of time with players who actually have futures at the QB position.
And I guess that's what my biggest gripe is: It was clear to anyone with a pair of eyes that Franks has zero chance to make it to the NFL, even less as the season has gone on.
Treon Harris in 2015 didn't have a single game where he failed to reach 100 yards against any defense when he started the game, Franks did it vs. Missouri.
Treon Harris was a year younger, and now plays as a WR for an FCS school. The writing was on the wall before the season started, and at some point a coach has to realize that his guy ain't it.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 1:23 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I'm not going to support a bad Quarterback because he's all we have
OK I don't have a problem with your other points other than this one. Are you serious? Unless you have some knowledge of Franks drowning puppies I am in agreement with the others that you are being unreasonable.
You always support the players. Period.
You can still criticize them after ward, but all Gator fans should support the players out there giving it their all.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 1:26 pm to bigDgator
And I thought that it was very bold to shush the fans, but not as bad as the fans booing him. I wish that neither would have occurred, but I think the fans will be OK. Hopefully he didn't hurt anyone's feelings too badly.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:00 pm to bigDgator
#NotStrawsQuarterback
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:02 pm to bigDgator
The only feelings he hurt were of the ppl talking the most shite about him. Their safespace entitled asses need to sit down and stfu.
“He cant do that!” Well, he wouldnt have done it if you werent being an a-hole so.....
“He cant do that!” Well, he wouldnt have done it if you werent being an a-hole so.....
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:26 pm to dbuchanon
I'm off the Franks train here, but it's because of his actions in the locker room and on the field. I was willing to let him learn under one of the best coaches in football in terms of building QBs.
Now I'm done with the support of Franks. His performances aren't good enough for him to be a dick to fans and laugh off being benched. Unacceptable.
I don't want Trask either. Not much upside to him and no way that guy is leading UF over Georgia or Bama in the future.
Time for the battle of Jalon vs Emory. I still feel good about Emory overall. Should be a good battle.
The best thing that can happen is Franks leaves. Then there is no started previously advantage in the spring. Will be Trask or the much more dynamic guys.
Now I'm done with the support of Franks. His performances aren't good enough for him to be a dick to fans and laugh off being benched. Unacceptable.
I don't want Trask either. Not much upside to him and no way that guy is leading UF over Georgia or Bama in the future.
Time for the battle of Jalon vs Emory. I still feel good about Emory overall. Should be a good battle.
The best thing that can happen is Franks leaves. Then there is no started previously advantage in the spring. Will be Trask or the much more dynamic guys.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:01 pm to Gatorbait2008
I think its one of the Jones boys next year
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:04 pm to Gatorbait2008
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The best thing that can happen is Franks leaves.
So why the beef with me? It's all I've been saying. I want him to win, he's probably a nice guy, but he's not Quarterback material.
The only reasons I wanted Trask to start/think he should have start is:
He doesn't call attention to himself.
He can actually throw it downfield with accuracy.
He is the perfect band-aid until Jalon and Emory get accustomed to the game.
My problem with Franks is not only is he simply not a good Quarterback talent wise, he's also not there mentally. Physically he has a ton of raw material to work with, but between the ears he is a complete headcase who can't stop beating himself up when he has a bad game.
The best Quarterbacks literally forget two minutes beforehand, they don't talk to fans/analysts and go about their jobs.
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Will be Trask or the much more dynamic guys.
A Trask/Jones/Jones rotation next year would be ideal. Trask is quiet, calm and has just enough talent to at least move us down the field and we can start to sprinkle both Joneses into the game.
Then Trask can transfer at the end of 2019 (neither Franks or Trask will be able to compete with either Jones in 2020) and we have our QB stable.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:53 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Trask got sacked 2 times in very limited minutes against Mizzou. And I told Straws that I looked at practice videos and I could see him slow in delivery of the ball. Straws ranted about Trask beating Franks in scrimmages and the dimwit doesn't understand its easier to have comletions when the bullets aren't flying. He isn't the answer, but I would support him if he was the starter.
Franks hasn't even grown into his body yet...probably none of you are 19-20 yrs old and 6'6" He has shown improvement over last year and with another year under Mullens offense...who's to say he wont start in 2019???
I dunno know the answer and no one on this board knows.
Franks hasn't even grown into his body yet...probably none of you are 19-20 yrs old and 6'6" He has shown improvement over last year and with another year under Mullens offense...who's to say he wont start in 2019???
I dunno know the answer and no one on this board knows.
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