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re: Emory or Trask

Posted on 2/17/20 at 5:19 pm to
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

He ran it 42 times.



Trask ran more for a 0.1 ypc avg lol
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 7:21 pm to
I will never take DB seriously after this travesty of a thread.

I mean, I have read some stupid shite in my time on the internet, but this is up there as it relates to Gator sports.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 7:39 pm to
Thank you

The fact you have no retort means everything

Actually, it doesnt. I already said idgaf about any opinions of me in here or any social media. .

You and your boy act so offended that ppl wanna see Jones yet in the same breath both admit Trask cant run the playbook.
Which is my primary reason in wanting to see Jones start over him that I said in the beginning.

You said he’s a prolific passer, the numbers posted showed he’s what I said he is. Good, not great. And good isnt worth scraping the entire playbook
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 8:08 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:48 pm to
Emory averaged 6.1 yards a run on 42 rushes for 256 yards and 4 touchdowns.

Perine averaged 6.6 yards a reception on 40 catches for 262 yards and 5 touchdowns.

We had eight players have more than 20 receptions. (Running back, Tight End and Receivers all included.)

We can easily reproduce (and overcome, since we did) Emory's production through receptions to a tailback. I much prefer to involve our entire offense, let Kyle gunsling another season and have Emory come in as a change of pace Quarterback until he can fully assume the team leader status in 2021 and have backupS. As in plural.

You gotta learn to take the L and move on.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:19 pm to
You talk about IF jones goes down we’re screwed, how bout you saying we change the entire offense for Kyle and he goes down the first play of the meat of our SEC schedule run?
Cant just flip a switch n go back to the old stuff

Hey guys, I know we havent ran it in a year but, QB power on one, lets go
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:34 pm to
No.

We don't flip the switch because Kyle isn't here. You think he's going to sit on the bench for his final year of eligibility?

You think Mullen is going to show how he rewards his players who are patient and wait by telling them to pack their shite?

It's not an IF if Jones goes down, the last two starters for Mullen who were running Quarterbacks both had their ankles twisted around the wrong way.

Do you know why Dak Prescott started? I'll give you a hint: It was because of an injury.

QB Power is great when you can rotate guys, we won't be rotating, and switch flipping during the season is very difficult -- which is why Trask is such a hot commodity.

Edit:

As a guy who obsesses over QB play, you simply don't realize what Trask did last year is generational. Guys don't come into a system that isn't built around them with zero experience and automatically get top ten in Total QBR, 15th in QBR and top 10 in 247 with limited help from his line and running backs.

Those are all handicaps and he looked better than good, he looked well above average despite those handicaps. One thing is to do well when you're in the shite, another entire thing is to do well despite tons of things not going your way.

Trask is gonna be phenomenal this season.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 9:46 pm
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

It's not an IF if Jones goes down, the last two starters for Mullen who were running Quarterbacks both had their ankles twisted around the wrong way.


Trask has had surgerieS (plural) from getting injured in practice. Missed snaps vs Auburn where he nearly tore his MCL. He has not shown any sign since he arrived that he can last an entire season without getting hurt

Jones wasnt sacked all season and not one team stacked the LOS when he came into a game despite most of us knowing it was going to be a run. They must be more worried about his arm / escapability than you let on
And the play he was pulled was precautionary, Mullen said in the post presser he was fine.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

Trask is gonna be phenomenal this season.

Our best and most experienced (leaders) WRs are gone. I just dont see the passing game being that consistent with those factors.
Pitts is Pitts, what else we got? Copeland is talented but kinda sketchy and Grimes showed he’s a good possession guy.
Pierce isnt Perine in the pass game

Plus, this defense has an 07 feel to me. Gonna be more talented than last year, but very inexperienced.

This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 5:35 am
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:48 am to
I'd love to switch this abortion of a thread to talking about defense.

The 07 team was coming in having lost all basically the entire secondary, it's entire LB corp, and most of the front 4.

This 20 team is only losing one starter in the secondary, one LB, and 3 DL.

This actually has more of an 08 feel to me rather than 07 on that side of the ball.

Really the big question on defense is can they replace the production of Greenard, Reese, and CJ. The depth seems to be there now, just need production. I think Elam and Miller are capable at DB and LB, but IDK if there is a DL who is going to replace Greenard right away.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:13 am to
quote:

This 20 team is only losing one starter in the secondary,

Our best Corner, other than Elam who we got thats proven?
quote:

one LB,

Our best Mike Backer
quote:

and 3 DL.

2 of our best passrushers.

Our safeties are very bad, i dont have faith in Miller and we saw what happened to our secondary with no rush.
We hope Cox is good, we hope Diabate breaks out but nothing is known for certain.

Like I said, talent us there but inexperience will be a factor as well as this young unit will have its growing pains
Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
12527 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:48 am to
quote:

I'd love to switch this abortion of a thread


Up vote
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:56 am to
In 07, they had lost:

Jarvis Moss, Ray McDonald, Steven Harris, Joe Cohen - 4 key players on the DL. Played all year.

Earl Everett, Brandon Siler, and Brian Crum at LB

Reggie Nelson, Ryan Smith, Reggie Lewis, Jermain and Tremain McCollum in the secondary.

That was the entire defense.

The only two returning starters were Tony Joiner and Derrick Harvey, and because of mediocre recruiting on that side of the ball in the 05 class, the transition was PAINFUL.

UF started three true sophomores at LB in Spikes and Doe and AJ Jones.

UF started a converted FR QB at CB (Joe Haden), and Markihe Anderson a true sophomore was the other starter before he got hurt. That forced another 2nd year sohpomore in Wondy Pierre-Louis to play a lot. Kyle Jackson, the only senior in the secondary besides Joiner, was so bad he was eventually benched for true freshman Major Wright.

The 2007 DL was an abortion. The depth at DT was so bad Mike Pouncey had to play significant minutes at DT. Javier Estopinan and Clint McMillan were your two starting DTs, and listen they played hard but they were not very good. Jermain Cunningham was another true sophomore starter.

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So let's be clear, UF had only 2 returning starters, most of the starters that year were 2nd year sophomores. They were INCREDIBLY inexperienced all over the field.

In 2020, the defense has 4 senior safeties. None of them have been great, but they are all better than Kyle Jackson was. They are decent players. Shawn Davis has been sensational at times, just inconsistent.

Marco Wilson is far more experienced than any corner on the team in 2007. Kair Elam would start over every other player on the 2007 defense. Trey Dean is a 3 year player, and although he had a tough year last year it doesn't mean he can't be better this year. Just look at Chauncey from 2017 to 2018. So a lot more depth in the secondary than 2007. A lot.

At LB, Ventrel Miller, james houston, and Amari Burney are all experienced players entering their 3rd and 4th years in the program.

On the DL, Campbell, Conliffe, Slaton, and Dunlap Jr. are far and away better than any guy UF had at DT in 2007. At DE, UF doesn't have a true rush end like harvey, but they have solid players with experience in moon and Carter and young guys up and coming in Diabate and Bogle.

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The experience is so much better in 2020 than 2007.




Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 12:20 pm to
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At LB, Ventrel Miller, james houston,


If these 2 guys walk out there game one as starters, we’re fricked.
Youre missing the point. Yes we have guys who’ve been here 3 plus years, BUT they shouldnt start over younger more talented guys like Hopper n Burney. Burney played different positions last year and Hopper got limited action. They are both more talented than Miller n Houston, but both lack experience. Thats what Im saying, I expect guys from Dans first class to beat out the Mac Specials who have shown they cant be difference makers as starters.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 3:57 pm to
Miller as a backup was 3rd in tackles last year. He’s shown he’s pretty good.

Just don’t say it’s like 07. We are far away from that.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

On the DL, Campbell, Conliffe, Slaton, and Dunlap Jr.

Nothing special here, these guys have 4 sacks combined. You dont think a DT or 2 from this class like Dexter pushes for playing time?
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Miller as a backup


Miller wasnt a backup, he started most of the season opposite Reese at the other backer spot. Even then he was pushed by Burney late when they stopped trying to force him into the Star position.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:16 pm to
Dbuch is a classic cart before the horse type of debater.

His mind is long made up and then he tries to fill in the spaces.

Perine was a better receiver last year (in every category from average yards per reception, points scored, total yards etc. etc.) than Emory was a runner, but we should definitely send a top ten QB packing so our coach can be comfortable.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:42 pm to
Meanwhile, Straws wants to burn the cart because his horse cant pull it
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:22 pm to
quote:


Perine


Is gone
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:05 pm to
Lame come back dude just let it go
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