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Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:02 pm
That despite how terribly inept we are on offense, how held back we are by the quarterback position, the ever expanding injury list, the poor OL play, and all the shite we've watched the last 6 years since Tebow left,
Mac still managed to get us to the SEC Championship Game twice? It's remarkable, really.
frick FSU. I hate those mother frickers with all I got. We have a lot of work to do, but we're trending up. We have receivers running open, a good stable of running backs, and an OL that struggled tonight, but is improving.
This hurts. Really bad. But keep your heads on straight and see the bigger picture. This isn't like the Tennessee and Arkansas games. We lost to a better team today. We're slowly working our way back to where we will compete with and beat those bastards. Give them their due tonight, but we're on the come up.
Go Gators
Mac still managed to get us to the SEC Championship Game twice? It's remarkable, really.
frick FSU. I hate those mother frickers with all I got. We have a lot of work to do, but we're trending up. We have receivers running open, a good stable of running backs, and an OL that struggled tonight, but is improving.
This hurts. Really bad. But keep your heads on straight and see the bigger picture. This isn't like the Tennessee and Arkansas games. We lost to a better team today. We're slowly working our way back to where we will compete with and beat those bastards. Give them their due tonight, but we're on the come up.
Go Gators
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:10 pm to atlgator
Only one SEC team has more than 8 wins this season.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:32 pm to atlgator
Honestly, the O-Line was not the problem tonight.
That quarterback play was atrocious. Appleby better cling onto that degree. He played so bad tonight.
That aside: Even as bad as we've been, all of the recruiting gaps that stretched from before McElwain's tenure, we've at least made it to Atlanta. I think that'd be the worst part of the year if we hadn't made it.
We know, though.
No Quarterback = Disaster.
That quarterback play was atrocious. Appleby better cling onto that degree. He played so bad tonight.
That aside: Even as bad as we've been, all of the recruiting gaps that stretched from before McElwain's tenure, we've at least made it to Atlanta. I think that'd be the worst part of the year if we hadn't made it.
We know, though.
No Quarterback = Disaster.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:43 pm to atlgator
Don't try to spin this as a good thing. We're a shite team. We're above this moral victory bullshite.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:48 pm to finchmeister08
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Don't try to spin this as a good thing. We're a shite team. We're above this moral victory bullshite
Outside of Alabama, what team would you rather be in the SEC?
LSU?
Arkansas?
Tennessee?
We weren't bowling before McElwain came in, and we weren't even getting 8 wins.
He's done it twice in two years, and won the East.
Even if the East is down, we still beat LSU in Baton Rouge.
Seriously though, outside of Bama, what other team would you like to be a fan of?
Go cheer for them.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:55 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Calm down guys
Tonight was bad, but look at what we had out there tonight
Yes we need better QB play
Yes we need a top class this year.
Without those two things. next yr I wont be so forgiving. Franks or Trask better be ready. We need depth across the board
Tonight was bad, but look at what we had out there tonight
Yes we need better QB play
Yes we need a top class this year.
Without those two things. next yr I wont be so forgiving. Franks or Trask better be ready. We need depth across the board
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:02 am to dbuchanon
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Calm down guys
Tonight was bad, but look at what we had out there tonight
Yes we need better QB play
Yes we need a top class this year.
Without those two things. next yr I wont be so forgiving. Franks or Trask better be ready. We need depth across the board
I'm calm, but I just don't understand why our hopes are so tremendously high. I predicted a win, but the injuries were worse than I had feared and furthermore: Appleby just isn't the answer. We haven't had a real quarterback since Grier, and well, it's been a while before him. (Tebow)
The defense was gutted, though.
A freakin' backup linebacker playing cornerback. Unreal.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:19 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
We made bowls 3/4 yrs with WM dumbass. JF hired an offensive coach who can't coach or recruit to UF standards and gave him 6 years. frick him and butter aw shucks BS.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:38 am to TJGator1215
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We made bowls 3/4 yrs with WM dumbass.
The first time in 30 years that we didn't, his fourth year he was dangerously close to not bowling again.
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JF hired an offensive coach who can't coach or recruit to UF standards and gave him 6 years.
We haven't had a legitimate offense in that long. You can't ask him to fix an offense in even two seasons when he's literally having to replace every position on that side of the ball.
Because someone didn't recruit that side of the ball for four fricking years.
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frick him and butter aw shucks BS.
The frick do you want him to say?
Want him to complain about referees and make an arse out of himself like Harbaugh?
Our team was stupidly depleted on defense, our offense is being held together by two shite transfers backed up by two freshmen who we're saving for next year.
I have no idea why you two are even Gator fans, honestly.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:56 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
There's the injury excuse. Injuries didn't stop us from being LSU. Despite your narrative WM did recruit on offense but it was poor except at RB, TE and QB. Mac let Driskel and grier go. The problem is he's doing the exact SAME thing and he's an offensive guy. His QB recruits have either been disasters like LDR or Appleby or unproven. His OL recruiting is average at best and now RB is dropping off. WR-TE is good. The defense is mess balance wise and talent wise and the drop off next year is going to be bad. You can only blame WM so long. We've seen no improvements with his players in his scheme. We've scored 20 or less points 4 straight games. This was the easiest schedule we've had in decades and we barely survived. We're staring at 8-5 this year with a SOS in the 60s. That's
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:32 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
It's year two. I think we know what we have. The question is whether or not to keep it around.
Pell 0-10-1 year one taking over for the Vol traitor Doug Dickey, then massive improvement in year 2 and a victory over FSU, starting 6 game streak against them. People forget how dominant Pell's teams often were at the line.
Spurrier, winning in year one, and even better in year two. We knew what we had with Spurrier in game one, with a beatdown of Ok St, 50-7, taking a guy people thought would be a scout team QB and transforming him into SEC POY and a career NFL QB. And he did this after telling the best RB in UF history that he was going to sling it around and so Smith went to the NFL. Year 2, undefeated SEC, beats #3 FSU, established complete domination over UGA.
Meyer, stumbled year one, the So Car meltdown, and year 2 wins SEC and NC. Knew the rivalry games were important and owned all the big rivals early in his tenure.
Zook, Rex Grossman calling Spurrier audibles, meltdown against Miami. 3 bad losses year one; meltdown early against Miami, then a couple bad losses, then a little winning streak, then finished the year like garbage for year 2.
Muschamp, couldn't beat a ranked team year 1, lost to unranked FSU, lost to UGA, offense scored 59 points total against 5 ranked opponents; in year 2 with Quinn, had best defense in the nation, horrible offense, blows it against UGA. Offense steadily worsened with each game with Muschamp.
Spurrier came in after probation - can't have a worse situation than that.
Pell came after idiot Doug Dickey. Put us on probation but he did more than stack talent. He was a good coach and knew how to win games and had done it elsewhere like at Clemson.
Zook followed Spurrier, still had plenty of talent. By year two we all knew what we had with Zook. But we waited till year 4, mid season. Why? Because he could recruit. Brought in talent but still lost to a vastly inferior MSU team that got him fired in year 4.
Meyer came in with talent Zook recruited but couldn't coach. Changed the attitude and year two he was off and running.
Muschamp came in after Meyer's fake crisis, meltdown, and stealing UF's recruiting board. Perhaps Muschamp gets a pass to year 3 but I think we all knew what we had with him: lackluster offense prone to letting you down at the worst time and a stout defense. 3-8 in year 3.
Now Mac. Not as chaotic as Muschamp taking over for Meyer but some issues for sure. Offense sucked in 2015, and sucks again 2016 with one QB that's been familiar with the system for a few years now and another that's a grad transfer.
I think Spurrier could take over on Monday and produce a better offensive performance against Bama than what we're going to see.
I prefer to be positive as a fan but I think we know what we've got with Mac. If the East is terrible, he'll get to Atlanta regularly. But being King Turd on Shite Island is not where UF wants to be.
Coaches think nothing of departing after two years. Meyer did that with Bowling Greene and Utah, and now Herman at Houston. Not sure why schools should feel a great stigma by upgrading on a short time window.
UF can't go back to "wait till next year" bumper stickers. Next year with Mac it'll probably be a RS Frosh at QB, with more excuses and more "wait another year".
If I were Scott Strickland, I would find it difficult to avoid entertaining the idea of putting Spurrier back on the sidelines, and would probably be calling him tomorrow to ask him about it.
Pell 0-10-1 year one taking over for the Vol traitor Doug Dickey, then massive improvement in year 2 and a victory over FSU, starting 6 game streak against them. People forget how dominant Pell's teams often were at the line.
Spurrier, winning in year one, and even better in year two. We knew what we had with Spurrier in game one, with a beatdown of Ok St, 50-7, taking a guy people thought would be a scout team QB and transforming him into SEC POY and a career NFL QB. And he did this after telling the best RB in UF history that he was going to sling it around and so Smith went to the NFL. Year 2, undefeated SEC, beats #3 FSU, established complete domination over UGA.
Meyer, stumbled year one, the So Car meltdown, and year 2 wins SEC and NC. Knew the rivalry games were important and owned all the big rivals early in his tenure.
Zook, Rex Grossman calling Spurrier audibles, meltdown against Miami. 3 bad losses year one; meltdown early against Miami, then a couple bad losses, then a little winning streak, then finished the year like garbage for year 2.
Muschamp, couldn't beat a ranked team year 1, lost to unranked FSU, lost to UGA, offense scored 59 points total against 5 ranked opponents; in year 2 with Quinn, had best defense in the nation, horrible offense, blows it against UGA. Offense steadily worsened with each game with Muschamp.
Spurrier came in after probation - can't have a worse situation than that.
Pell came after idiot Doug Dickey. Put us on probation but he did more than stack talent. He was a good coach and knew how to win games and had done it elsewhere like at Clemson.
Zook followed Spurrier, still had plenty of talent. By year two we all knew what we had with Zook. But we waited till year 4, mid season. Why? Because he could recruit. Brought in talent but still lost to a vastly inferior MSU team that got him fired in year 4.
Meyer came in with talent Zook recruited but couldn't coach. Changed the attitude and year two he was off and running.
Muschamp came in after Meyer's fake crisis, meltdown, and stealing UF's recruiting board. Perhaps Muschamp gets a pass to year 3 but I think we all knew what we had with him: lackluster offense prone to letting you down at the worst time and a stout defense. 3-8 in year 3.
Now Mac. Not as chaotic as Muschamp taking over for Meyer but some issues for sure. Offense sucked in 2015, and sucks again 2016 with one QB that's been familiar with the system for a few years now and another that's a grad transfer.
I think Spurrier could take over on Monday and produce a better offensive performance against Bama than what we're going to see.
I prefer to be positive as a fan but I think we know what we've got with Mac. If the East is terrible, he'll get to Atlanta regularly. But being King Turd on Shite Island is not where UF wants to be.
Coaches think nothing of departing after two years. Meyer did that with Bowling Greene and Utah, and now Herman at Houston. Not sure why schools should feel a great stigma by upgrading on a short time window.
UF can't go back to "wait till next year" bumper stickers. Next year with Mac it'll probably be a RS Frosh at QB, with more excuses and more "wait another year".
If I were Scott Strickland, I would find it difficult to avoid entertaining the idea of putting Spurrier back on the sidelines, and would probably be calling him tomorrow to ask him about it.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 4:21 am to UF
Holy Shitski UF....stop the kneejerk reactions after a L. It stung...hell yeah....but lets not blame Appleby for this one. Our entire OL got smoked big time. Drew Brees and any other QB would not have fared well with the leaky OL we had out there.
Remember that we had to play LSU last week instead of Presbyterian College...while the girls school got to play a cupcake. This is what I alluded to in one of my replies to a post on this board...would we have emotion fuel left to play on the road twice in a row.
Our defense kept them out of the end zone time after time and with horrible officiating. I watch 3 distinct holds a blind man could see that werent called. One was on a big play when DL Bryan was held and he couldnt believe the no call...you could see him look around frustrated. I think it was a split acc-SEC crew? Most of the flags thrown against the girls school must have been SEC guys? There was also a wide open block in the back on a long punt return not called and you can see our player raise his arms in disgust after the no call.
But officials werent why we lost..we could not run the ball to save our lives and of course then they came after AA hot and heavy. We are a patchwork team right now and without a stout defense they would have scored 50 on us easily.
Uhhh gotta bust your bubble on this quote. Maybe you didnt realize the defensive talent Spurrier inherited? In his first two years he enjoyed the benefits of a great defense....but he did put together an offense that could score points. Now what happened in 1992? He had lost all that defensive talent and OL talent and since he didnt recruit much his first year...we went 0-2 in the SEC with UGLY losses...but thank God he righted the ship so we could play in the first ever SECCG.
Mac is going to need some time. I've seen enough already to know he improved the team...not as fast as some want, but has taken us to the point where dividends are going be paying off. I expect more improvement next year. We lost three games this year and Im thinking 11-1 next year with our schedule.
Young Franks is going to be slinging the ball around and has that 6'6" frame to be able to see over heads. I think he also has a gunslinger attitude and confidence is part of the key to being a great QB. Appleby was fortunately able to provide some leadership when it was obvious LDR had a weak arm and the frosh werent ready.
Mac is going to be our HC for the next two years so we might as well be supportive. Im getting old and believe me I wanna see us get much better. The girls school has to come to the Swamp along with LSU, A&M & UT....we also will have an upperclassmen dominated OL for the first time in ages. Running the ball effectively is a QBs best friend.
Remember that we had to play LSU last week instead of Presbyterian College...while the girls school got to play a cupcake. This is what I alluded to in one of my replies to a post on this board...would we have emotion fuel left to play on the road twice in a row.
Our defense kept them out of the end zone time after time and with horrible officiating. I watch 3 distinct holds a blind man could see that werent called. One was on a big play when DL Bryan was held and he couldnt believe the no call...you could see him look around frustrated. I think it was a split acc-SEC crew? Most of the flags thrown against the girls school must have been SEC guys? There was also a wide open block in the back on a long punt return not called and you can see our player raise his arms in disgust after the no call.
But officials werent why we lost..we could not run the ball to save our lives and of course then they came after AA hot and heavy. We are a patchwork team right now and without a stout defense they would have scored 50 on us easily.
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UF
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Spurrier, winning in year one, and even better in year two.
Uhhh gotta bust your bubble on this quote. Maybe you didnt realize the defensive talent Spurrier inherited? In his first two years he enjoyed the benefits of a great defense....but he did put together an offense that could score points. Now what happened in 1992? He had lost all that defensive talent and OL talent and since he didnt recruit much his first year...we went 0-2 in the SEC with UGLY losses...but thank God he righted the ship so we could play in the first ever SECCG.
Mac is going to need some time. I've seen enough already to know he improved the team...not as fast as some want, but has taken us to the point where dividends are going be paying off. I expect more improvement next year. We lost three games this year and Im thinking 11-1 next year with our schedule.
Young Franks is going to be slinging the ball around and has that 6'6" frame to be able to see over heads. I think he also has a gunslinger attitude and confidence is part of the key to being a great QB. Appleby was fortunately able to provide some leadership when it was obvious LDR had a weak arm and the frosh werent ready.
Mac is going to be our HC for the next two years so we might as well be supportive. Im getting old and believe me I wanna see us get much better. The girls school has to come to the Swamp along with LSU, A&M & UT....we also will have an upperclassmen dominated OL for the first time in ages. Running the ball effectively is a QBs best friend.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:54 am to finchmeister08
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Don't try to spin this as a good thing. We're a shite team. We're above this moral victory bullshite.
There's no fricking moral victory you fricking dumbass
We're going to the SEC Championship. That's not a moral victory. That's real.
Mac inherited a team that was fresh off a 4-8 and 7-5 season. And turned it into 10-2 and 9-3 regular seasons, despite the deficiencies that he was left with by his predecessor.
You dumbasses think that this shite happens over night? Because it doesn't. It takes more than one and a half recruiting classes to build a program. And yet, people want to fire the coach and hang him for losing to an established, talented, elite program. Give it a fricking break.
You guys are absolutely insufferable. There wasn't a peep from you Finch after we beat LSU. Now all of a sudden you're back to tell everyone you told us so. frick you. Go be a "fan" somewhere else. We're watching Mac build a program.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:01 am to atlgator
When Grier left UF it essentially made year 1 into year 0. This was really year 1 because of the QB situation. Which is really bad.
UF has no QB.
If one of the red shirt freshmen doesn't emerge next year, I doubt the UF fan base lets Mac makes it past year three.
Fair or not.
UF has no QB.
If one of the red shirt freshmen doesn't emerge next year, I doubt the UF fan base lets Mac makes it past year three.
Fair or not.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:06 am to slayerxing
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If one of the red shirt freshmen doesn't emerge next year, I doubt the UF fan base lets Mac makes it past year three.
Fair or not.
Put it this way, if UF fires Mac after year 3, no elite coach in their right mind will want to come to this situation.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:16 am to slayerxing
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When Grier left UF it essentially made year 1 into year 0. This was really year 1 because of the QB situation. Which is really bad.
This is a good point. We need Franks or Trask to be a special player. And people need to let go of the "Mac pushed Grier out" bullshite narrative. The guy fricking got caught cheating, got banned from playing for a year, then got caught doing cocaine with Austin hardin, and wanted Mac to guarantee him his job back when his suspension was up. He told him he'd have the opportunity to get his job back, but he wasn't going to guarantee it.
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If one of the red shirt freshmen doesn't emerge next year, I doubt the UF fan base lets Mac makes it past year three.
I think Mac will be here for AT LEAST 3 more years. The guy is going to the SEC Championship for the second time in 2 years (and I think we're going to be back in Atlanta every year for the foreseeable future because the rest of the division is a train wreck with no end in sight), and he's in Atlanta again despite having a quarterback suspended halfway through the season, a midget with no arm, a journeyman with no arm, and a Purdue reject. Let's pump the brakes on the "Fire Mac" and "he'll be gone after next year nonsense and have some perspective. All we can do is support the team and the coaches that represent the school we love. That's why I don't understand some "fans" being so fricking miserable and negative, even though that does absolutely nothing to change or help the program. I get that you're frustrated, we all are. But see the big picture and what is being built. This program is rising back up from where Muschamp buried us down to. Just be patient.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:27 am to boXerrumble
That's not true at all. Every coach knows this is a business and plenty of great coaches would come here. Just like LSU though you have to be willing to pay. That's why they got ed o instead of Fisher or Herman. Waiting a year or being cheap gets you bad hires like Mac-WM, or Nusschamp with terrible in game coaching and recruiting that turn into lost decades like The one we're going through.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:37 am to TJGator1215
Im all in on the get rid of Nuss bus, but I think you gotta give McElwain at least 4 years before making a decision.
Either way, hes not going anywhere, because of the back to back East titles.
Im not sold yet, but I wanna see McElwain get a QB first.
Get a legit QB, and if the offense still sucks, go from there.
Either way, hes not going anywhere, because of the back to back East titles.
Im not sold yet, but I wanna see McElwain get a QB first.
Get a legit QB, and if the offense still sucks, go from there.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:47 am to TJGator1215
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bad hires like Mac-WM, or Nusschamp with terrible in game coaching and recruiting that turn into lost decades like The one we're going through.
frick off TJ. My team, box's team, slayer's team, straws team, is going to Atlanta again. I know it pisses you off, but our team is going.
Hey, let's have some perspective. Muschamp went 4-8 and 7-5, lost to Georgia southern, never went to Atlanta in 4 years, left a offensive roster completely devoid of talent. We had 6 offensive linemen when Mac took over. 6. S. I. X. Six. He buried this program.
Since Mac took over, he's had to build up the talent (it's no coincidence that all of the contributors on this team are freshmen and sophomores), force Foley to get us caught up on facilities, scrap together grad transfers on the OL to field an offensive line and at quarterback because we would have only had 3 scholarship quarterbacks (two of them being brought in by Mac), and despite all of the deficiencies, the lack of talented upperclassmen, he's still managed to have regular seasons of 10-2 and 9-3 (because Presbyterian was a W). He's built up the offensive talent, the OL is young and improving, and if Franks or Trask can be facilitators, then we'll see the offense takeoff. There's still wide open receivers running all over the field all game long. It's frustrating as shite.
You're a dumbass TJ. To even compare Mac to Muschamp is a fricking embarrassment. Please go post on a different board. You rarely bring any sort of thoughts to this board outside of your trolling and random obscure facts. You'd fit right in on a board like gatorchatter. Please go there and be negative instead, so this place isn't insufferable.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:50 am to atlgator
What program is he building with the #10, #6 and currently #8 in the SEC? We're an after thought in the minds of most major recruits and the defensive recruiting except for DB has been atrocious. Plenty of us are disgusted because we've looked this way all year:
We're
#114 in total offense
#86 in passing O
#104 in rushing O
#104 in scoring O.
So congrats we won a terrible East. That didn't help Miz when they got boat raced and it's not helping us. He's 5-5 Nov-Jan in 2 years. We've had less than 300 yards of offense 5 times this year and less than 250 3 times. We're averaging 14 ppg offensively since UT. We're as offensively challenged as the guy we just canned. Foley deserves all the blame for this disaster.
We're
#114 in total offense
#86 in passing O
#104 in rushing O
#104 in scoring O.
So congrats we won a terrible East. That didn't help Miz when they got boat raced and it's not helping us. He's 5-5 Nov-Jan in 2 years. We've had less than 300 yards of offense 5 times this year and less than 250 3 times. We're averaging 14 ppg offensively since UT. We're as offensively challenged as the guy we just canned. Foley deserves all the blame for this disaster.
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