Started By
Message
2020 Quarterback Connundrum.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 11/9/19 at 2:35 pm
So I've seen that people are already talking about the "QB Battle" next year and I think it needs to be talked about from several different angles.
First Problem: Kyle Trask is having a sensational season, having thrown for over 300 yards in two different games this year (294 vs. Tennessee with a drop). He has the highest completion percentage ever by a Gator QB in modern football and has yet to be "stopped" by any single defense. He's only thrown for under 200 yards as a starter once (Towson) and the game was over before it began. He now has 21 touchdowns on the season despite only starting 7 games. (That is 3 Touchdowns a game.)
Second Problem: Seniority. Trask will be a Redshirt Senior and so if he were to hypothetically lose the Quarterback battle next year, there is no chance he would return to the team. If Trask were to leave, we would be left with Emory Jones (has never started a game) and Anthony Richardson (true freshman) with Quarterbacks who are built to run which leads us to the...
Third Problem: The offensive line. It is clearly better in pass protection than it is in rush protection. I don't think this can be fixed in one off-season and it will likely need at least one more year before we can go back to being a true power spread.
Essentially, with the numbers we have, if we were to start Emory next year we would be completely limiting his ability to do what he does best: Run the ball. This is evidenced by the fact that we would literally only have two Quarterbacks on scholarship (again, Trask will 100% leave if he is not the starter, someone will pick him up at another program).
If Emory Jones leaves, however, the chances of a throwing QB being injured are a lot less. We could also take a transfer just to beef up numbers and while it wouldn't be the greatest, it's better than having three Quarterbacks who all possess the same skillsets.
The point I'm essentially making is that if we took in a transfer QB for an Emory Starter, it's likely he would, too, be a running QB. If we struggle to have a pass threat for next year, I see a lot of extremely close games in that scenario because we won't be able to run with any consistency which means defenses will do what they did against Franks for the past few years: Stack the box, play physical man and dare us to beat them through the air.
In the end, Trask should and will be our starter next year unless he plays abysmally in the next three games.
First Problem: Kyle Trask is having a sensational season, having thrown for over 300 yards in two different games this year (294 vs. Tennessee with a drop). He has the highest completion percentage ever by a Gator QB in modern football and has yet to be "stopped" by any single defense. He's only thrown for under 200 yards as a starter once (Towson) and the game was over before it began. He now has 21 touchdowns on the season despite only starting 7 games. (That is 3 Touchdowns a game.)
Second Problem: Seniority. Trask will be a Redshirt Senior and so if he were to hypothetically lose the Quarterback battle next year, there is no chance he would return to the team. If Trask were to leave, we would be left with Emory Jones (has never started a game) and Anthony Richardson (true freshman) with Quarterbacks who are built to run which leads us to the...
Third Problem: The offensive line. It is clearly better in pass protection than it is in rush protection. I don't think this can be fixed in one off-season and it will likely need at least one more year before we can go back to being a true power spread.
Essentially, with the numbers we have, if we were to start Emory next year we would be completely limiting his ability to do what he does best: Run the ball. This is evidenced by the fact that we would literally only have two Quarterbacks on scholarship (again, Trask will 100% leave if he is not the starter, someone will pick him up at another program).
If Emory Jones leaves, however, the chances of a throwing QB being injured are a lot less. We could also take a transfer just to beef up numbers and while it wouldn't be the greatest, it's better than having three Quarterbacks who all possess the same skillsets.
The point I'm essentially making is that if we took in a transfer QB for an Emory Starter, it's likely he would, too, be a running QB. If we struggle to have a pass threat for next year, I see a lot of extremely close games in that scenario because we won't be able to run with any consistency which means defenses will do what they did against Franks for the past few years: Stack the box, play physical man and dare us to beat them through the air.
In the end, Trask should and will be our starter next year unless he plays abysmally in the next three games.
3
Posted on 11/9/19 at 4:34 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I know it's not a popular opinion with Gator fans but I think Emory is the guy next year. It's absolutely nothing against Trask he has been awesome.
I just think that running ability in the end can even out talent disparities against teams like Georgia. I think with a great running QB Mullen is almost unstoppable as a play caller. His ability to spread the field in an air raid style isn't as strong as other coaches.
Just think in the end, Jones fits the mold we need to get to that next level as a team with Mullen calling plays. You see his fourth down calls without a run game..they...well they suck lol. Same with any short yardage. Mullen has relied on the running QB in short yards for over 10 years. Hard to alter his whole philosophy like he has had to.
I just think that running ability in the end can even out talent disparities against teams like Georgia. I think with a great running QB Mullen is almost unstoppable as a play caller. His ability to spread the field in an air raid style isn't as strong as other coaches.
Just think in the end, Jones fits the mold we need to get to that next level as a team with Mullen calling plays. You see his fourth down calls without a run game..they...well they suck lol. Same with any short yardage. Mullen has relied on the running QB in short yards for over 10 years. Hard to alter his whole philosophy like he has had to.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 4:45 pm to Gatorbait2008
The problem isn't that Emory doesn't fit the system, it's that we already have a serviceable Quarterback (literally top ten in the country right now) and that if Emory starts next year he has one backup: A guy who has never played in College.
That means that Emory will be extremely limited in QB runs, which means that to protect him we will need to call more passing plays.
Wanna take a guess at who is really good at passing the ball?
It's just not going to happen unless Mullen wants to let a Top Ten QB walk so we can be "comfortable" and play a Quarterback who won't be able to utilize his best asset.
That means that Emory will be extremely limited in QB runs, which means that to protect him we will need to call more passing plays.
Wanna take a guess at who is really good at passing the ball?
It's just not going to happen unless Mullen wants to let a Top Ten QB walk so we can be "comfortable" and play a Quarterback who won't be able to utilize his best asset.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 6:33 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I will seriously have doubts about Mullen if he starts Emory over Trask next year.
He already started Franks over Trask (LOL) and after the season Trask had, he would get his pick of any school in the country to go to (Oklahoma anyone?) and he would light it up.
He already started Franks over Trask (LOL) and after the season Trask had, he would get his pick of any school in the country to go to (Oklahoma anyone?) and he would light it up.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 6:51 pm to boXerrumble
I hate to say it but I’m on the Trask train. If Emory doesn’t get it now, he may never get it.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 6:57 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
How is this even a question? Trask is having the best season at qb for uf in a decade.
It’s trask.
It’s trask.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 7:30 pm to slayerxing
quote:
Trask is having the best season at qb for uf in a decade.
Not a high bar
But yes, he's playing well
Posted on 11/9/19 at 9:32 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Why would he be limited running the ball?
Mullen has never held back running his QB. Wouldnt start doing it suddenly.
Mullen has never held back running his QB. Wouldnt start doing it suddenly.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 10:03 pm to Gatorbait2008
If Emory got injured next year we would literally be down to one scholarship QB -- Anthony Richardson. He's not nearly the passer he needs to be to take over the offense.
If Emory Jones runs 5+ times a game next year and takes sacks he will eventually get hurt -- he's gotten up shaky several times this year.
If Trask doesn't start next year, we're fricked. He will 100% transfer to any school he wants to and we'll be left with two scholarship QBs. One who has never started a game and another who will be a True Freshman.
If Emory Jones runs 5+ times a game next year and takes sacks he will eventually get hurt -- he's gotten up shaky several times this year.
If Trask doesn't start next year, we're fricked. He will 100% transfer to any school he wants to and we'll be left with two scholarship QBs. One who has never started a game and another who will be a True Freshman.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:42 am to Gatorbait2008
I agree . Emory is the guy we want to keep. He is younger has more upside and fits Mullen’s offense. But I think Mullen is going to pick Trask. He could have played Emory a lot more late in the Vandy game but he didn’t . I don’t get the idea of keeping a serviceable QB over a guy with a much higher ceiling . If you want a sure thing 9-10 wins next year then Trask is the guy hands down. If you willing to risk going 8-4 to have a chance at 11-1 and play in the SECCG then Emory is the guy. Seems like our program has really fallen for some of our fans to want to go 10-2 .
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:50 am to boXerrumble
quote:
He already started Franks over Trask (LOL) and after the season Trask had, he would get his pick of any school in the country to go to (Oklahoma anyone?) and he would light it up.
Trask is not going to get an offer from a major program like Oklahoma. He is one of the least mobile QBs in college football and he is not good at the deep pass. He will be lucky to get a P5 offer .
Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:53 am to tjv305
The dude got offered a scholarship to UF as career high school back up and you don’t think he would ONE P5 offer in all of CFB after the season has had?
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:00 am to tjv305
quote:
Trask is not going to get an offer from a major program like Oklahoma. He is one of the least mobile QBs in college football and he is not good at the deep pass. He will be lucky to get a P5 offer .
Its no point arguing with you.
Have you ever played football? Out of curiosity?
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:02 am to boXerrumble
I guarantee you Mike Leach would take Trask and he would get a 6000 yard year out of him breaking Colt Brennan’s record. Leach loves guys with high football IQ.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:22 am to olemc999
Trask will 100% get P5 offers lol.
Top 12 QB in the country even having played 2 3/4 fewer games (and one was against an FCS). Very little run support and still has an incredibly high completion %.
Trask is 100% gone, Emory would be an idiot to transfer (he will have to sit out a year, anyway) and will likely get a ton of reps next year as well. Being an injury away from playing is better than having to arbitrarily sit on the bench at another place.
EJ has a chance to stay, Trask has zero. If we want to even be remotely close to running this offense how we want next year without the risk of injury we have to play it conservatively. Especially with the pieces available to us.
Top 12 QB in the country even having played 2 3/4 fewer games (and one was against an FCS). Very little run support and still has an incredibly high completion %.
Trask is 100% gone, Emory would be an idiot to transfer (he will have to sit out a year, anyway) and will likely get a ton of reps next year as well. Being an injury away from playing is better than having to arbitrarily sit on the bench at another place.
EJ has a chance to stay, Trask has zero. If we want to even be remotely close to running this offense how we want next year without the risk of injury we have to play it conservatively. Especially with the pieces available to us.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:36 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
If Trask is so great why not go pro after this year? The guy is not very talented.
Almost all college football coaches to win a national championship did it in their first 4 years at a program. Dabo is about the only one to take longer then 4 years and he had to build Clemson to the program they are today. Mullen’s decision on who he wants to keep next year will show if he wants championships or to boost his ego. Starting Trask next year would mean we have to win a national championship in 2021 or it’s most likely not going to happen for Mullen at UF.
Almost all college football coaches to win a national championship did it in their first 4 years at a program. Dabo is about the only one to take longer then 4 years and he had to build Clemson to the program they are today. Mullen’s decision on who he wants to keep next year will show if he wants championships or to boost his ego. Starting Trask next year would mean we have to win a national championship in 2021 or it’s most likely not going to happen for Mullen at UF.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:42 am to tjv305
quote:
Almost all college football coaches to win a national championship did it in their first 4 years at a program.
Yeah, we should've had Spurrier fired after 4 years too right?
quote:
Starting Trask next year would mean we have to win a national championship in 2021 or it’s most likely not going to happen for Mullen at UF.
Oh my god.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:54 am to tjv305
quote:
Dabo is about the only one to take longer then 4 years and he had to build Clemson to the program they are today.
So you are saying that you don’t have the patience to play the long game and end up like Clemson?
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:55 am to tjv305
quote:
If Trask is so great why not go pro after this year?
Not enough game tape at all. He hasn't played very many games but he would 100% be drafted this year. He can improve his draft stock next year, though. This year he'd be a steal in the later rounds because he would be an extremely serviceable backup -- smart, decent arm strength and makes good decisions.
quote:
The guy is not very talented.
And you're not very smart. Franks was apparently "extremely talented" according to many people here and Trask has absolutely obliterated his statistics. He's thrown for more than Franks did three times in single games despite having 15 less games. He is a legitimate Quarterback.
quote:
Almost all college football coaches to win a national championship did it in their first 4 years at a program. Dabo is about the only one to take longer then 4 years and he had to build Clemson to the program they are today. Mullen’s decision on who he wants to keep next year will show if he wants championships or to boost his ego.
Weird take, not sure I follow the logic. Every team is different and it can take time to build rosters around your strengths.
Mullen has taken a QB that doesn't fit his system and turned him into a top 12 Quarterback. He just needs to have more time to get several QBs that fit his system. This would all be a lot easier to manage if Jalon didn't leave the program. However, no Jalon means we are missing a body and that body is important in a dual-threat offense.
quote:
Starting Trask next year would mean we have to win a national championship in 2021 or it’s most likely not going to happen for Mullen at UF.
This is just nonsensical. There's no logic or forethought in this. Mullen will very likely at least be in the Playoff in the next 5 years once he gets a stable full of his Quarterbacks so he can run his offense.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:45 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Where will Trask be drafted when he enters the draft? 6th round at best .
Franks has way more talent then Trask . He is just a bone head. What’s the comparison between Trask and Franks in the most important stat under Mullen ? Record?
Name the coaches to win national championship in the last 15 years , who took more then 4 years at a program you feel is comparable to UF .
So our coaches goal is to make a average QB look good at win 9-10 games? I guess we have become Georgia where that’s good enough.
Franks has way more talent then Trask . He is just a bone head. What’s the comparison between Trask and Franks in the most important stat under Mullen ? Record?
Name the coaches to win national championship in the last 15 years , who took more then 4 years at a program you feel is comparable to UF .
So our coaches goal is to make a average QB look good at win 9-10 games? I guess we have become Georgia where that’s good enough.
Page 1 of 3
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News