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re: 1-0: UMass postgame thread

Posted on 9/7/16 at 7:29 am to
Posted by cornhat
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 7:29 am to
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But I'm VERY concerned about the O-Line. We gave up a D1-worst 45 fricking sacks last year and in week 1 we got abused by one of the worst teams in D1.
This.

I'm ambivalent on the game overall but the O-Line is worrisome. Glad we have a kicker though!
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 7:48 am to
I was just making a point that it's just one game.

2006 team had a bunch of scrapes vs average teams.

After watching the 2008 Miami game there is no one on earth outside of Florida fans that though UF was going to win anything of note that year.

Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:55 am to
The OL wasn't great but to say they were atrocious is a little bit of an exaggeration IMO. Only gave up one sack and two hurries, and the quick passes negated any other opportunities for the offensive line to see how long they could hold their blocks. I thought LDR could've sat in the pocket a little bit longer on some plays, but that's part of the learning experience.

I'm convinced that if we decided to hand the ball off to Scarlett 10 more times and Del Rio threw the ball 34 times instead of 44, Scarlett would've had 150+ and we would've rushed for 200+ yards as a team. The gameplan was for Del Rio to get reps, and the weather made it so that those reps were exponentially more difficult to execute. The OL was slipping and sliding all over the place. I'm holding off judgement until we play Tennessee. The OL shouldn't have more than 5 sacks given up through these first 3 games.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:41 am to
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The OL wasn't great but to say they were atrocious is a little bit of an exaggeration IMO. Only gave up one sack and two hurries, and the quick passes negated any other opportunities for the offensive line to see how long they could hold their blocks. I thought LDR could've sat in the pocket a little bit longer on some plays, but that's part of the learning experience.

I'm convinced that if we decided to hand the ball off to Scarlett 10 more times and Del Rio threw the ball 34 times instead of 44, Scarlett would've had 150+ and we would've rushed for 200+ yards as a team. The gameplan was for Del Rio to get reps, and the weather made it so that those reps were exponentially more difficult to execute. The OL was slipping and sliding all over the place. I'm holding off judgement until we play Tennessee. The OL shouldn't have more than 5 sacks given up through these first 3 games.


1 sack and 2 hurries are worrisome against the level of competition. Not converting on 4th down is on the OL.

That being said UF is not going to give up as many sacks. Treon put the OL in tough spots by holding onto the ball for way to long waiting for receivers to break open instead of throwing them open.

I thought that Del Rio did a good job of getting the ball out. I have not watched the game besides live from a low angle.

Besides the TD penalty drive, the defense played well outside of 14. He is not ready for SEC football yet. Zuniga had a great game with 2 Sacks.

UF has a fricking kicker! Besides the FGs, he was extremely good at sky kicking on kickoffs.

Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:02 am to
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Not converting on 4th down is on the OL.



The 4th and 1 play was a bad call by the coaches. They were pulling two OL in a tight space and it had no chance.

I'm certainly not giving up on this team, but if we struggle with UK, I will start to lose hope and be very very concerned.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:33 pm to
The good news is even if UK is another struggle UF gets North Texas as a final warm up before the UT game.

We should know what we have by week 5 going to Vanderbilt.

Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 2:08 pm to
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But I'm VERY concerned about the O-Line.


The thing is, you can scheme around a bad o-line if you have a decent quarterback. Someone who doesn't make mistakes can take a lot of pressure off of the O-Line.

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24 points against UMass



Rain favors weaker teams, as I said before, the disparity is way less with rain.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 3:47 pm to
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atlgator



quote:

I'm certainly not giving up on this team, but if we struggle with UK, I will start to lose hope and be very very concerned.



Some food for thought: we struggled with UK last year and still managed to win the east and 10 games with hot garbage offensive talent overall with three true frosh playing/starting a lot of snaps.

Even if the unthinkable happens and we lose to UT...we could easily win the east when Jones implodes against Bama/UGA/A&M for examples. Of course I think we beat UT because our team will come out of the locker room fired up to the max looking for respect and to shut down the hillbilly noise. Our defense will cream Dobbsy and he will have the deer in the headlights look.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 7:54 pm to
Dobbs may not play for UT if he's really hurt. Va Tech is very physical and I doubt he can take much punishment if his ribs are hurt despite what BJ says.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:01 pm to
He did appear to take a vicious hit at the goal line and I thought he was seriously injured myself.

Cracked or broken ribs are painful as hell...I broke 2 ribs when I was getting ready to gaff a tuna for a friend on my boat when the deck was slightly slippery..slipped and hit the edge of a cooler and I felt like I had been kicked by a mule.I continued fishing but I had friend drive the boat back....after 45 minutes of slipping the pain got much worse and I had hard time breathing.

Painful for a month and still felt it for about another month or so. You feel it much worse the day after...and I had a lot of ice on me.
Posted by gatorbait_007
Clemson, SC
Member since Oct 2013
924 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:51 pm to
I just cant wait for the days we don't have to say “Obviously, as you watched the game, we’ve got a long ways to go,” against the likes of UMass, Vandy and FAU. First game and as most said in a Monsoon. We had bright spots and dim spots. I won't judge the season on this game. I will have a better picture after Kentucky of who we are. But wont get the full picture until Tennessee.

The bad:
The first thing that concerned me was Mac talking about the O-line being lazy and just walking around like Andy Dusfresne in Shawshank Redemption with not a care in the world and a similar comment last year about them acting like dead fish. Is Summers to blame for this or is this a something that is embedded in the team? Who are our team leaders?

The second thing that concerned me was penalties. Same thing as last year. Stupid penalty after stupid penalty.

LDR had a 5.8yd per pass attempt seems to me to be a bit low.

The good:
Eddy is the man.

Our defense looks pretty good and we have some playmakers there.

Our young WR's were impressive to me. I like balls being caught for a change.
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 10:09 pm
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:38 pm to
Why the frick are you jackasses talking about an aliens ribs?

Looking forward to Barker vs our D. Our coaches second half adjustments.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 5:37 am to
Expect to see UK air it out 45+ times...Barker is still learning and hope our secondary can snag a few.

Flags? Yeah its frustrating but good teams are aggressive and get penalized a lot...look at the girls school get 11 flags in the first half. The only really good team in the south that doesnt penalize itself much is Bama.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 10:56 pm to
Because Bama pays the refs. They have some of the worst holding in the league.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 12:59 am to
Here it is 2am and Im up...responding to Straw I think we need to ante some big bucks and buy our own refs.

In all seriousness...if you look at teams historically that were high energy defensively...you get flags. It is frustrating but effort flags I dont mind much...but mental mistakes are tough to accept.

I have looked at weather channels and consulted ouija boards and Gainesville has only a 20 % chance of rain...we all know about predictions.
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