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mikeboss550
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
Yea I don't agree there...and I feel very good withbwhere things stand with shrader right now.


BamaBully
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
I say that because he’s the only QB we have offered that we have a legit chance at.

Hilinski is probably the backup plan right now.

Howell and Phommachanh are pipe dream guys. We have zero chance with them.


Cockopotamus
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
If we redshirt Joyner do we really need a QB this class?


GameCocky88
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
Our only Scholarship QB's at that point would be Bentley, Urich and Joyner.


mikeboss550
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
Yes...quality qb in every class or you get stuck with a Perry orth
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Cockopotamus
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
I didn't think we normally had more than three scholarship QBs at a time.

I think we gave a preferred walkon spot to a QB out of Hammond or heathwood this class too.


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Cockopotamus
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
Orth > Mitch and Mitch was a "quality QB"


mikeboss550
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Orth > Mitch and Mitch was a "quality QB"


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Mitch wasn't bad till he got the blood infection after the hip pointer...then he was never the same it was like he got hit shy. But if you really think the public bag boy was better more power to ya.
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BamaBully
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
Mitch beat UNC in the opener. They were a top 10 team that season and almost made it to the playoffs.

They should’ve recovered that onside kick against Clemsonz


Cockopotamus
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
I didn't say he had better potential but my point was he had better production at USC than Mitch so I don't buy into arbitrarily giving a scholarship to a QB every class

And if you think about it Orth out performed Nunez and Scarnechia and competed with McIlwain so you can belittle him if you want but he did a helluva lot more at QB for this program than those 4 scholarship QBs.


mikeboss550
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
Mitch beat Orth out and had a serious injury that hindered him mentally going foward and the guys you mentioned lets go one by one Nunez was a WR from the get go but wouldnt accept that and would only play QB so simple that a QB with walkon status would beat him out, Scarnechia was a project that Spurrier took on in his senile years as a backup cause they didnt get thier guy, and BMac was a true freshman who had 1 spring to learn the system and then tossed into the fire and still beat Orth out for the job but caved into the pressure. So to use those as your arguments isnt very solid, im not saying orth was bad but he was on the low end of serviceable but i would much rather recruit they guys that Werner wants an its common practice EVERYWHERE to take a QB in each class, to prevent Orth situations from occuring. If you are okay with an Orth at QB for 2 friggin years then be my guest and watch us play like we did with him under center but id rather not.
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lungbuster06
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
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Mitch beat UNC in the opener. They were a top 10 team that season and almost made it to the playoffs.


Don't know that I would go that far. I can't remember exactly, but Mitch was less than 50% on that game. We won that game on Shon Carson's big run and NC throwing 3 interceptions in their red zone. Outside of that, we sucked.

NC played one ranked team that year. They also got boat raced by Baylor in their bowl game, who was using their 3rd string QB.


Cockopotamus
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So to use those as your arguments isnt very solid


My point is that just because you sign a QB to a scholarship doesn't mean they are worth it so using 4 failures that got beat out by a walk on is very solid support for my argument, despite whatever excuses you want to make for their failure.

I'm fine with targeting a QB every class but I don't think it's necessary to sign one every class. Especially when we've got young options in Urich and Joyner as second and third string. Wasting a scholarship on another Scarnechia for the sake of signing a QB in 19 would do more harm than good in my opinion because of the hard 25 limit in place.

But lord knows you don't understand other people can have opinions other than your own.


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GameCocky88
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
If we're going to settle this arguement we should stop looking at our old stable of QBs and look at the QBs of our competition. While you could argue til your blue in the face about Orth vs. Mitch, Orth/Mitch vs. the other QBs we are going to face if we want to go to Atlanta is a no brainer. We don't need to get into that situation and not taking a QB this year is how we do that.

Look at the past few cycles:

Bentley/BMac(Left)
Urich(Project)
Joyner(Miles of athletic upside but needs progress as a passer)

We've GOT to have someone this cycle who can spin it. Not only do we need another QB from a depth stand point, we need someone who's going to push Joyner to progress after Bentley leaves.


lungbuster06
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We've GOT to have someone this cycle who can spin it.


Agree 100%. I'm not sure if it was him or the staff, but I would've preferred full court press on Howell rather than Schrader. Both are good prospects, I just believe Howell has better throwing mechanics at this phase and will not require as much development.

And PS, I was just pointing out to BB that Mitch didn't win that game and NC wasn't a "top 10" team. Giving that shithole undue credit will never fly with me.


GameCocky88
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
you were the last one to post when i started that. I wasn't replying to you specifically. From what has been said about Howell vs Schrader, the staff thinks they are on par with one another and the tie in those situations goes to the taller guy most of the time.


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Cockopotamus
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
What do you mean by project for Urich? I thought he played QB in high school?


GameCocky88
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
He played QB for only one year in HS I believe. Was a WR before that.


BamaBully
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
Howell is someone that we literally have ZERO chance with.

If we put the full court press on him, we would have our dicks in our hands by the time NSD rolled around.

We’re going after Shrader because we think we could land him.

If we don’t, we’re in trouble.

I’m not convinced Joyner will be able to play QB in the SEC either. We will have to wait and see.


We need to take a QB every year for the competition and depth aspect.

An SEC team should NEVER have to trot out a Nunez or Orth.


mikeboss550
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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
Savion Jacksonwill be on campus this weekend for practice


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